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       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: TootsNYC Date: October 29, 2020, 10:16 am
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       [quote]...But I've found that people can be funny about
       'favours'. I wonder if they convinced themselves that they were
       somehow doing you and your LDH a favour by "giving you a break
       from parenting" or something like that?
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       Or maybe they felt that you were fulfilling an obligation, so
       they didn't need to express appreciation or feel any gratitude.
       #Post#: 59507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: kckgirl Date: October 29, 2020, 10:52 am
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       Many years ago when my kids were still shuttling back & forth
       for visitations with their dad, we did things several ways.
       First, he did all the driving because he moved away. I took them
       to him once when he had a reason that he couldn't travel, but
       when it was time for them to come home he again couldn't bring
       them. It was a full day of driving to go there and come home,
       and was very inconvenient when I had to do it both ways.
       We then decided that the gaining parent would pick the kids up
       so nobody had to do all the driving. It was still a full day of
       driving but more acceptable when it was only once per trip. When
       they were older, we found a shopping mall that was halfway
       between our houses and we met there for a nice, indoor, safe
       place to meet.
       If a person with your situation doesn't want it to happen again,
       I would choose an option from my second paragraph, just above,
       and refuse to do it any other way except in an emergency.
       #Post#: 59515--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: VorFemme Date: October 29, 2020, 12:16 pm
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       If they don't feel comfortable feeding you themselves, a gift
       card or cash to "feed the kid" on the drive home might be an
       idea...but...ten hours of driving and NOTHING at their house,
       not even a glass of water, a chance to "freshen up", and maybe a
       small snack if the kid isn't packed & ready to go home?
       #Post#: 59517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: SureJan Date: October 29, 2020, 12:37 pm
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       The thing that really sticks out to me is that they were willing
       to drive halfway to pick him up but *not* willing to do the same
       to return him - I find that so SO rude and think that really
       shows their attitude towards the OP and her LDH.
       #Post#: 59545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: sms Date: October 30, 2020, 8:03 am
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1903.msg59499#msg59499
       date=1603984597]
       [quote]...But I've found that people can be funny about
       'favours'. I wonder if they convinced themselves that they were
       somehow doing you and your LDH a favour by "giving you a break
       from parenting" or something like that?
       [/quote]
       Or maybe they felt that you were fulfilling an obligation, so
       they didn't need to express appreciation or feel any gratitude.
       [/quote]
       Yeah...those points are worth considering.  Not that they would
       be right - they aren't.  But I can see people feeling entitled
       that way.
       At any rate it would be time to set that straight if indeed they
       thought they were "helping you out" or worse that you had an
       obligation.  That is a huge amount of driving and a whole day
       spent doing it.
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       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: Morticia Date: October 30, 2020, 9:57 am
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       Thanks everyone. I suppose in the end they did learn that we
       didn't feel obliged. It's nice to have the validation that it
       was off for them to not offer us a meal.
       DS is an adult now, and tends to restrict his efforts to those
       who are willing to make the effort back. I take that as a win.
       #Post#: 59560--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Basic Hospitality When You're Doing a Favour
       By: Winterlight Date: October 30, 2020, 1:35 pm
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       My aunt had two children, daughter has a kid and son does not.
       Son drives from his house to pick up Nephew for
       vacations/weekends and such, but he lives over 100 miles away
       from Sis and the roads are very very busy, so he said that he'd
       like to split the trip and after that Nephew was exchanged at a
       halfway point. He calls it the prisoner exchange, Nephew is not
       amused but I thought it was hilarious. And back when he made the
       drive, Son was always fed/watered/offered a bed if traffic was
       bad or it was late. I don't think I'd be willing to go out of my
       way for these people when they aren't willing to go halfway for
       you.
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