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       #Post#: 58993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: Spuck Date: October 15, 2020, 9:27 am
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       Thank you for posting all this advice. Glad I put this post on
       an etiquette board.
       #Post#: 59010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: Dazi Date: October 15, 2020, 10:29 am
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       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1894.msg58983#msg58983
       date=1602767862]
       [quote author=Spuck link=topic=1894.msg58955#msg58955
       date=1602718991]
       I have asked my doctors before about exercise I should do, and
       when I asked about a rowing machine they said that is something
       I should not use.
       [/quote]
       Did your doctors say why you should not use a rowing machine? It
       seems like a rowing machine would have far less impact on joints
       than a treadmill, and possibly even less than an elliptical?
       What about a stationary bike, maybe a recumbant bike with arms?
       [/quote]
       It depends on the why. I absolutely CANNOT use a rowing machine
       as it will pop my shoulder out of socket from an old injury
       (also have an issue with it making my tailbone burn like holy
       hellfire from breaking it several years ago). I'm perfectly fine
       on a treadmill or elliptical though.
       #Post#: 59012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: NFPwife Date: October 15, 2020, 10:52 am
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       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1894.msg58983#msg58983
       date=1602767862]
       [quote author=Spuck link=topic=1894.msg58955#msg58955
       date=1602718991]
       I have asked my doctors before about exercise I should do, and
       when I asked about a rowing machine they said that is something
       I should not use.
       [/quote]
       Did your doctors say why you should not use a rowing machine? It
       seems like a rowing machine would have far less impact on joints
       than a treadmill, and possibly even less than an elliptical?
       What about a stationary bike, maybe a recumbant bike with arms?
       [/quote]
       Rowing machines are intense. They engage multiple muscles with
       lots of pulling from the lats and shoulders (with some
       involvement of the biceps), as well as pushing from the legs.
       They'll get your HR pretty high but, generally, I don't think
       they're the place for a new exerciser to start. They might be
       low impact in terms of lower body joints, but they are not low
       impact to shoulders and elbows.
       I'm surprised that brother and sister-in-law found it to be a
       wise gift. I think it's more likely that mother wore them down
       until they allowed her to spend their money. I'd bet they know
       that a. it's in poor taste to get someone an unsolicited
       fitness/ weight loss gift (no matter their size!) and b. a
       rowing machine is not the best option for a new exerciser. I
       think they spent $300 to get Mother to shut up. (And based on
       what you've said, Spuck, that seems like a bargain!)
       I like giving them the option of returning it because the doctor
       has advised against it's use. If they decline, sell it and buy
       yourself something lovely.
       #Post#: 59033--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: Spuck Date: October 15, 2020, 1:25 pm
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       My mom says she told them not to buy me the rowing machine. I
       figure that they must have gotten an Amazon Prime deal because
       it arrived a few days after Prime Day.
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       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: Jem Date: October 15, 2020, 1:36 pm
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       [quote author=Spuck link=topic=1894.msg59033#msg59033
       date=1602786338]
       My mom says she told them not to buy me the rowing machine. I
       figure that they must have gotten an Amazon Prime deal because
       it arrived a few days after Prime Day.
       [/quote]
       A C2 rowing machine costs upwards of $1,600 last I checked!
       Different rowing machines are used differently and constructed
       differently and cost less, I suppose. I remember when the YMCA
       my family went to growing up had rowing machines with actual
       oars on the sides and sliding seat. A totally different
       experience than a C2 rower!
       But I agree with the other posters that if you cannot use the
       rowing machine they purchased for you, tell them and see whether
       they can return it or resell it or give it to someone who can
       use it.
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       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: TootsNYC Date: October 15, 2020, 2:35 pm
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       [quote author=Spuck link=topic=1894.msg58979#msg58979
       date=1602763727]
       They might be able to exchange it. Its all going to be an
       awkward exchange for me because at the very least I am going to
       have to say mom doesn't listen to me without bringing up all the
       other stuff that is really just unnecessary information I wanted
       to get off my chest somewhere.
       [/quote]
       They know your mother too, no?
       Does mom listen to them any better than she listens to you?
       You don't have to get into all that much; just say, "Mom keeps
       forgetting that my doctors have told me not to use a rowing
       machine. They'd prefer I use a treadmill, if I'm going to use
       any machine. Could you return it and get your money back?"
       (What about a pedaling exercise machine? You can sit in a
       comfortable chair and pedal.)
       (there are arms-only cardio workouts--maybe tapes for that?
       Those might be much easier to get started with when you're extra
       heavy. Or hand weights like the old Heavy Hands? I still
       remember when Dick Gregory was helping an obese man build his
       cardio fitness and burn calories by having him do "conducting
       the orchestra" exercises with fun music)
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       #Post#: 59040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: bopper Date: October 15, 2020, 2:43 pm
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       "Bro, SIL, I wanted to thank you for your thoughtfulness on my
       birthday, however, unfortunately it is something I cannot use. I
       had talked to my doctors about exercise equipment and they said
       specifically that rowing machines were not appropriate for me
       because of my shoulder. In fact, I mentioned that to Mom... So
       if she suggested this after I told her I couldn't use one I am
       sorry on your behalf.  If not, I am sure you love yours and
       thought I might like one too. Mom often thinks she knows better
       than me (or my doctors) about things that affect me, so I
       encourage you next time to ask me directly. Something like a
       treadmill would be appropriate for me. I know this is not an
       inexpensive item so if you would like to return it for a refund
       let me know and we can make arrangements for you to pick it up.
       Once again, thank you for remembering me on my birthday."
       #Post#: 59050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: oogyda Date: October 15, 2020, 6:01 pm
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       How kind of you to want to give them a chance to get their money
       back or exchange it for something you can actually use.
       A gift, once given, belongs solely to the recipient and they can
       do with as they please. Including throwing it away, giving it
       away, selling it, returning it or exchanging it.  It would be
       nice if they could help you out with the information or direct
       assistance.
       But, seriously?!?!  They gave you exercise equipment!  Unless
       you specifically expressed a desire for somerhing,  that's a
       huge insull'd say it's on them to appease you rather than the
       other way around.
       #Post#: 59051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: Spuck Date: October 15, 2020, 6:12 pm
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       Meh... I talked to my mom this afternoon first, and we got in a
       wee bit of a fight about the machine. I asked her about the
       exchange about the rowing machine she wanted to borrow, and she
       said they just suggested getting a new one then bought me a new
       one before they told her not to. I can find that believable
       because I have another brother that likes to push help on me,
       along with my mom, without actually listening to me or asking me
       how I want help. Its a family traits.
       Now that I think about it my dads like that to.
       #Post#: 59067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received Rowing Machine
       By: oogyda Date: October 16, 2020, 9:30 am
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       Do you live with your mom?  That kind of makes a little more
       sense of how you ended up with a growing machine she wanted.  I
       think it would have been better to make it a gift to her rather
       than you, though.
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