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#Post#: 59244--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Gellchom Date: October 21, 2020, 11:30 am
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[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=1887.msg59236#msg59236
date=1603286419]
[quote author=Sara Crewe link=topic=1887.msg59232#msg59232
date=1603260519]
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her
son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a
famous cricketer.
Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding
clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a
Hollywood party. There were *multiple* articles in the press
about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first
thing I thought about when I saw this thread.
The marriage lasted two years.
[/quote]
I had never heard about this so did a search and found this
recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.
HTML https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
[/quote]
Interesting story. Sounds like the cleavage (although she
evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the
dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers,
you might not even notice the color! :) But besides being
inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another
issue: attention-seeking. As being a celebrity already
inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal
couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.
I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I
agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.
#Post#: 59245--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Rose Red Date: October 21, 2020, 12:48 pm
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[quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1887.msg59244#msg59244
date=1603297858]
[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=1887.msg59236#msg59236
date=1603286419]
[quote author=Sara Crewe link=topic=1887.msg59232#msg59232
date=1603260519]
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her
son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a
famous cricketer.
Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding
clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a
Hollywood party. There were *multiple* articles in the press
about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first
thing I thought about when I saw this thread.
The marriage lasted two years.
[/quote]
I had never heard about this so did a search and found this
recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.
HTML https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
[/quote]
Interesting story. Sounds like the cleavage (although she
evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the
dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers,
you might not even notice the color! :) But besides being
inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another
issue: attention-seeking. As being a celebrity already
inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal
couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.
I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I
agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.
[/quote]
I thought the dress was going to be awfully skimpy, but it's not
too bad, especially if she wore a jacket in church. I agree the
color is better for an evening wedding and reception, but I've
seen guests in similar little black dresses at "regular people"
weddings.
#Post#: 59247--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: TootsNYC Date: October 21, 2020, 12:58 pm
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1887.msg59211#msg59211
date=1603205637]
[quote]You’re in the UK, though, right? And aren’t most
weddings in the daytime there? Evening is much more common
here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about
is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a
daytime wedding, too.
If there is a party at night, still no black?[/quote]
Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s
in a very remote location the majority of the guests can
probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home
the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in.
So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till
late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early
afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow.
Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go
home.
[/quote]
This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the
U.S.
#Post#: 59257--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Winterlight Date: October 21, 2020, 3:29 pm
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[quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1887.msg59244#msg59244
date=1603297858]
[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=1887.msg59236#msg59236
date=1603286419]
[quote author=Sara Crewe link=topic=1887.msg59232#msg59232
date=1603260519]
Raquel Welch wore low cut black with shoulder straps to her
son’s afternoon English church wedding to the daughter of a
famous cricketer.
Everyone else in the pictures is wearing typical British wedding
clothes with shoulders covered for church, she’s dressed for a
Hollywood party. There were *multiple* articles in the press
about how inappropriately she was dressed and it was the first
thing I thought about when I saw this thread.
The marriage lasted two years.
[/quote]
I had never heard about this so did a search and found this
recent article. The bride sounds so very gracious.
HTML https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1329039/Raquel-welch-dress-wedding-rebecca-ferrene-trueman
[/quote]
Interesting story. Sounds like the cleavage (although she
evidently put on a jacket for the church) and tightness of the
dress were more of an issue than black; with a shape like hers,
you might not even notice the color! :) But besides being
inappropriate for a daytime church wedding, there is another
issue: attention-seeking. As being a celebrity already
inherently entails a risk of drawing focus from the bridal
couple, something less flashy would have been a better choice.
I too think the bride was very classy in her reaction, and I
agree that it isn’t a big deal anyway.
[/quote]
Yes, I wouldn't expect her to show up in a bag, but I think
Raquel could have picked something pretty that didn't scream
"Look at me!" The bride sounds like a lovely person.
#Post#: 59262--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Gellchom Date: October 21, 2020, 4:57 pm
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1887.msg59247#msg59247
date=1603303116]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1887.msg59211#msg59211
date=1603205637]
[quote]You’re in the UK, though, right? And aren’t most
weddings in the daytime there? Evening is much more common
here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about
is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a
daytime wedding, too.
If there is a party at night, still no black?[/quote]
Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s
in a very remote location the majority of the guests can
probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home
the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in.
So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till
late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early
afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow.
Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go
home.
[/quote]
This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the
U.S.
[/quote]
The second bolded is true in my experience, too. But then, the
weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and
the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in
the evening, as in the first bolded. Is that gap common in your
experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?
#Post#: 59266--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Hmmm Date: October 21, 2020, 6:56 pm
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[quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1887.msg59262#msg59262
date=1603317471]
[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1887.msg59247#msg59247
date=1603303116]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1887.msg59211#msg59211
date=1603205637]
[quote]You’re in the UK, though, right? And aren’t most
weddings in the daytime there? Evening is much more common
here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about
is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a
daytime wedding, too.
If there is a party at night, still no black?[/quote]
Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s
in a very remote location the majority of the guests can
probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home
the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in.
So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till
late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early
afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow.
Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go
home.
[/quote]
This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the
U.S.
[/quote]
The second bolded is true in my experience, too. But then, the
weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and
the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in
the evening, as in the first bolded. Is that gap common in your
experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?
[/quote]
In my area, it is only common at Catholic weddings. Many
Catholic churches in my area not do a ceremony on Saturday
evening because of Mass. But the couples still want an evening
reception so have a few hour gap between the ceremonies. Of the
few we've attended with a gap, it was pretty noticeable the
number of people who skipped the wedding and only came to the
reception.
#Post#: 59280--------------------------------------------------
Re: wearing black
By: Soop Date: October 22, 2020, 6:38 am
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[quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1887.msg59262#msg59262
date=1603317471]
[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1887.msg59247#msg59247
date=1603303116]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1887.msg59211#msg59211
date=1603205637]
[quote]You’re in the UK, though, right? And aren’t most
weddings in the daytime there? Evening is much more common
here, at least in my community, so the black I’m talking about
is party clothes. You’d see way less black in the US at a
daytime wedding, too.
If there is a party at night, still no black?[/quote]
Bear in mind that if you hold a wedding in the U.K, unless it’s
in a very remote location the majority of the guests can
probably set off from their homes in the morning and get home
the same night. That means they have no hotel room to change in.
So if you’re planning to have dancing and a party going on till
late you’ll probably have the wedding ceremony in the early
afternoon, dinner in the early evening, with dancing to follow.
Whatever the guests turned up wearing, they wear till they go
home.
[/quote]
This has been true of every wedding I've ever been to in the
U.S.
[/quote]
The second bolded is true in my experience, too. But then, the
weddings I've attended don't have a gap between the ceremony and
the reception, with one pretty early in the daytime and one in
the evening, as in the first bolded. Is that gap common in your
experience (Iowa, NYC, or elsewhere)?
[/quote]
It's very common in weddings I've been to (I'm in Ontario,
Canada). Ceremony early afternoon (say 1-ish), bridal party
disappears for a few hours for pictures and then they greet
everyone for the reception for dinner (around 6 or so). There
may be something set up at parent's home for out of town people
or suggestions given for local attractions (parks or whatever).
At one cousin's wedding, the bride was from the Caribbean (I
can't recall which island) and all her guests came in fairly
somber church going clothes for the ceremony and during the gap
went home and changed into super fancy party clothes. We on the
groom's side felt rather under dressed.
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