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       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: LifeOnPluto Date: October 8, 2020, 5:29 am
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       [quote author=Maude link=topic=1885.msg58629#msg58629
       date=1602145658]
       I've noticed in recent years that parents are almost training
       their children to be picky eaters. When it's getting on towards
       dinner time, the parent asks the child "What do you want for
       dinner? " . The  child states his /her choice as if from a menu
       eg Macdonalds!!!  When the answer is NO then a tantrum ensues
       because , from the child's point of view, "You asked me what I
       wanted, I told you, and now you say no! "
       Parents need to lead their children, not follow.
       [/quote]
       I am not a parent, but I've heard a good tactic is to offer the
       child a choice of two or three items. Eg "Would you like
       chicken, or pasta tonight?" That way, the child feels they have
       some say in the matter, without necessarily calling all the
       shots.
       #Post#: 58639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Soop Date: October 8, 2020, 7:20 am
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       My story is a bit opposite(?) to picky. I was staying at a
       friend's house whilst my parents were away. Nearing dinner time,
       friend's mom asked if I would like Liver or Steak. I said Liver
       to her surprise. She told my parents when they returned and my
       dad has told the story for the last 40 years.
       I still love liver (and kidneys and sweetbreads), but also now
       love steak. Back then, my older sister didn't like steak, so I
       followed her lead. It was one of the few things we could reject.
       My mom would make us a bunless burger instead. But really
       looking back, I also didn't like steak because every piece of
       meat in the house was cooked to death. That was okay-ish for
       roast beef, because you could slather it with gravy, but there
       was no sauce for steak. I now eat my steak rare.
       #Post#: 58646--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: BeagleMommy Date: October 8, 2020, 8:42 am
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       [quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=1885.msg58633#msg58633
       date=1602152964]
       [quote author=Maude link=topic=1885.msg58629#msg58629
       date=1602145658]
       I've noticed in recent years that parents are almost training
       their children to be picky eaters. When it's getting on towards
       dinner time, the parent asks the child "What do you want for
       dinner? " . The  child states his /her choice as if from a menu
       eg Macdonalds!!!  When the answer is NO then a tantrum ensues
       because , from the child's point of view, "You asked me what I
       wanted, I told you, and now you say no! "
       Parents need to lead their children, not follow.
       [/quote]
       I am not a parent, but I've heard a good tactic is to offer the
       child a choice of two or three items. Eg "Would you like
       chicken, or pasta tonight?" That way, the child feels they have
       some say in the matter, without necessarily calling all the
       shots.
       BeagleDaddy and I both worked full-time while BeagleBoy was
       small.  We did not have time to make more than one entrée for
       dinner when we got home.  If we were having chicken, BB ate
       chicken.  Our rule was "try three bites".  After three bites if
       he didn't like something he didn't have to eat it.  We always
       encouraged him to try anything food he wanted.  We ended up with
       a child who would eat anything that didn't try to eat him first.
       Parents shouldn't behave like short-order cooks.  I think may
       be one of the reasons he went into the culinary world.  However,
       to this day he can't eat eggs.  He just doesn't like them in any
       form.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 58657--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Luci Date: October 8, 2020, 10:58 am
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       I used to host family dinners for about 35-40 people twice a
       year. One was the turkey dinner and the other a grilled picnic
       luncheon. A niece always asked for a peanut butter sandwich and
       my SIL let her get away with it, so I just went along with it.
       My saying, "No" wouldn’t have done any good and just stir things
       up. Years later, she apologized to me about that and thanked me
       for complying.
       Our son was about six and and I told  him if didn’t eat 10 peas
       he couldn’t leave the table. He sat at the table until bedtime.
       He is now a very opinionated and stubborn 50 year old. I know
       that is not the way to get a child to eat now according to
       experts.
       #Post#: 58660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: vintagegal Date: October 8, 2020, 11:22 am
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       [quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=1885.msg58633#msg58633
       date=1602152964]
       [quote author=Maude link=topic=1885.msg58629#msg58629
       date=1602145658]
       I've noticed in recent years that parents are almost training
       their children to be picky eaters. When it's getting on towards
       dinner time, the parent asks the child "What do you want for
       dinner? " . The  child states his /her choice as if from a menu
       eg Macdonalds!!!  When the answer is NO then a tantrum ensues
       because , from the child's point of view, "You asked me what I
       wanted, I told you, and now you say no! "
       Parents need to lead their children, not follow.
       [/quote]
       I am not a parent, but I've heard a good tactic is to offer the
       child a choice of two or three items. Eg "Would you like
       chicken, or pasta tonight?" That way, the child feels they have
       some say in the matter, without necessarily calling all the
       shots.
       [/quote]
       Growing up we were given two choices - take it or leave it.
       Strangely, I have distinct memories of sitting at the table to
       finish something long after others had left, but I can't
       remember what the food was. I wasn't a picky eater, the only
       things I can remember not liking were egg salad, cream of wheat,
       and rice pudding. And lima beans.
       #Post#: 58661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Dazi Date: October 8, 2020, 11:26 am
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       [quote author=Luci link=topic=1885.msg58657#msg58657
       date=1602172706]
       I used to host family dinners for about 35-40 people twice a
       year. One was the turkey dinner and the other a grilled picnic
       luncheon. A niece always asked for a peanut butter sandwich and
       my SIL let her get away with it, so I just went along with it.
       My saying, "No" wouldn’t have done any good and just stir things
       up. Years later, she apologized to me about that and thanked me
       for complying.
       Our son was about six and and I told  him if didn’t eat 10 peas
       he couldn’t leave the table. He sat at the table until bedtime.
       He is now a very opinionated and stubborn 50 year old. I know
       that is not the way to get a child to eat now according to
       experts.
       [/quote]
       I loathed peas as a child. It actually turned out that I'm
       allergic to them.
       #Post#: 58672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Aleko Date: October 8, 2020, 1:51 pm
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       [quote]I am not a parent, but I've heard a good tactic is to
       offer the child a choice of two or three items. Eg "Would you
       like chicken, or pasta tonight?" That way, the child feels they
       have some say in the matter, without necessarily calling all the
       shots.[/quote]
       That only works at all if you have an only child. If you have
       more than one, it's a dead cert that they will all want
       different things and you will have created yourself a world of
       pain, because whatever you finally cook will cause bitter
       resentment.
       In any case, why deliberately give children the idea that they
       have, or ought to have, any say in the matter? If home meals,
       like school meals, are just a thing that happens, they will
       accept that as a given. (Getting them to eat it, if they don't
       like it, is another matter.) And it makes the rare occasions,
       like birthdays, when Mum says 'You can choose what you want for
       lunch', that's a huge treat.
       My mother did her best to cook something all her three children
       was reasonably happy to eat, but if any of us did say 'I don't
       like this', her simple and consistent response was, 'Fine; don't
       eat it then. I dare say one of the others will want it.' And
       that would be it. We knew we weren't going to be offered
       anything else instead, and the siblings would joyfully snarf our
       lunch up themselves, so nothing went to waste.
       #Post#: 58675--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: BlueWave Date: October 8, 2020, 2:26 pm
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       [quote author=Maude link=topic=1885.msg58629#msg58629
       date=1602145658]
       I've noticed in recent years that parents are almost training
       their children to be picky eaters. When it's getting on towards
       dinner time, the parent asks the child "What do you want for
       dinner? " . The  child states his /her choice as if from a menu
       eg Macdonalds!!!  When the answer is NO then a tantrum ensues
       because , from the child's point of view, "You asked me what I
       wanted, I told you, and now you say no! "
       Parents need to lead their children, not follow.
       [/quote]
       Sure, this may be true in some circumstances but I don't agree
       with the generalizations. My twins have severe reflux and will
       vomit uncontrollably if their stomachs get too empty. So telling
       them to eat what they given or get nothing doesn't work in our
       house. They get to pick their own meals and snacks but they have
       always been adventurous and healthy eaters and the meals/snacks
       they pick are almost always healthy and balanced. They know that
       they can't demand candy or junk food and get away with it. But
       they eat enough meals of quinoa, veggies, and fruit that if they
       ask for the occasional pizza delivery, we rarely say no.
       #Post#: 58685--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Titanica Date: October 8, 2020, 4:23 pm
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       [quote author=BeagleMommy link=topic=1885.msg58562#msg58562
       date=1602078219]
       My father's boss had my family to their home for dinner one
       evening.  Boss's wife made a beef roast.  They were originally
       from New England and, according to them, ate beef the way all
       New Englanders do...rare.
       I have never been able to stomach rare beef.  Even beef cooked
       to medium makes me nauseous.  I have to eat it medium well.
       I asked to have the two end pieces of the roast because I knew
       they would be more cooked.
       [/quote]
       As a lifelong New Englander, I can promise you that that's not
       true.  I despise rare meat.
       #Post#: 58689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O - Remembering old threads - picky eaters
       By: Gellchom Date: October 8, 2020, 5:15 pm
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       When I was growing up, my parents had only one rule about trying
       foods.  We didn't have to try anything, not even one taste, if
       we didn't want to (not that we would be given something else
       special, we just had to make do with the other things on the
       table).  There was only one exception: if you said "Yuck!" or
       anything else disparaging about something that was being served,
       you had to eat a whole, good sized portion of it.  No appeal,
       either, because it was your own fault -- you wouldn't have even
       have had to have one bite if you'd been polite.
       My big brother broke the rule (blueberry pie) and got that
       consequence exactly once.  I witnessed it, so I never did.
       My husband and I had the Yuck Rule with our kids, too, and I
       don't think either of them ever broke it, and they are glad they
       learned the rule about not disparaging what others are eating
       (not to mention insulting the cook/host).  Neither is or was a
       picky eater.  When we last discussed this, some posters said
       that they felt it was wrong to force the child to eat the
       portion of the food they'd yucked, and some to not insisting on
       trying a bite, but neither seemed to lead to any eating
       disorders or pickiness in our family.  My brother still won't
       eat blueberry pie, but he doesn't like blueberries anyway, so I
       don't think it's that he is still traumatized more than 50 years
       later.
       Children love to cheer, "Yuck to [chocolate cake, e.g.]!" to
       their favorite foods to "have to" eat it.  They all think they
       came up with it on their own.
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