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       You and Your Mother
       By: baritone108 Date: October 3, 2020, 6:45 pm
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       I don't think I've ever seen this discussed here.  When will
       people realize they should not assume what the relationship
       between two people is?  Within the last 2 1/2 years I've had
       someone call a woman my mother out loud in front of both of us
       (she's younger than me) and had someone call me my friend's
       mother (she's about 5 yrs younger).  Again, out loud in front of
       both of us.  It's really mortifying regardless of whether you're
       the "mother" or the "child".
       #Post#: 58413--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: bigbadbetty Date: October 3, 2020, 7:21 pm
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       My friend has somewhat similar problem except they are assuming
       he is not in a relationship. When he is accompanying his husband
       on a business trip, he has had the hotel clerk say there's been
       a mistake and their room only has one bed. The clerk offers to
       move them to a room with two beds. And then he has to explain
       that no, he is actually OK sharing a bed with his husband.
       #Post#: 58414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: Winterlight Date: October 3, 2020, 7:23 pm
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       I was at a day spa with married friends of mine. The masseuse
       asked my woman friend, "Are you here for your daughter's high
       school graduation trip?"
       She meant me!  :o :o
       Friend and I were the same age (30s)!  :-[ :-[
       Fortunately friend was amused. We spent the rest of the trip
       with me referring to her as "Mom." Her husband sighed a lot and
       rolled his eyes at us.
       So, yeah, don't assume. And if you do, keep your lip zipped.
       #Post#: 58415--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: lakey Date: October 3, 2020, 8:46 pm
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       These stories are almost as bad as people asking a woman with a
       belly when the baby is due, then finding out that she isn't
       pregnant. I haven't made that mistake, but there was someone
       that I worked with that I thought might be pregnant. Fortunately
       I never said anything, because she wasn't. Heck, I've seen men
       who look 8 months pregnant. As you get older you realize that it
       is better to not make assumptions about people.
       #Post#: 58416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: honeybee42 Date: October 3, 2020, 8:53 pm
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       And by the same token--throughout my adult life until about the
       last decade, when I went places with just my mother, people
       would make out-loud assumptions that we were sisters.  Now I
       think we confuse the daylights out of them, so they don't say
       anything because my mom's skin/face definitely looks older
       (she's in her 70s), she colors her hair and I don't, so I have
       more gray (silver!  when I was younger, I always said that if I
       inherited my grandfather's silver hair I'd never color it, and I
       did inherit it ... it's just a few strands now, but eventually,
       I'll have a shiny head of silver hair).
       #Post#: 58417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: OnyxBird Date: October 3, 2020, 9:20 pm
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       When I was in college, my brother and I both participated in a
       volunteer trip with a student organization that involved several
       other groups coming in from various areas of the country. The
       first evening included a social event for all of the different
       groups to mingle, and after my brother and I had been chatting
       with a man from another group for a short time, he made some
       comment referring to my brother as my "fiancé."  :o :o :o
       To this day, I am baffled as to how he reached the very specific
       conclusion that the two opposite-sex people he was chatting with
       who were friendly with each other but not engaging in any sort
       of physical affection/use of endearments/etc. 1) must be in a
       romantic relationship rather than platonic friends (or, in our
       case, siblings) and 2) that the assumed romantic relationship
       was specifically engaged (neither of us wears rings of any sort,
       so it's not like he saw something resembling a typical
       engagement ring and extrapolated). Assuming we were dating would
       have been weird and annoying enough, but the specificity of the
       "fiancé" assumption really creeped me out.
       #Post#: 58419--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: Rose Red Date: October 3, 2020, 10:10 pm
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       I've also had people assume my brother and I are a married
       couple. I've also been told we look alike so that feels extra
       gross. I just correct them of our real relationship. Most people
       just say they're sorry and move on. Except for a hospital that
       incorrectly wrote down that he's my husband in the emergency
       contact and when I corrected them, kept insisting the form says
       "husband." I don't care what your form says Lady. I know my own
       freaking brother and you need to use your brain.
       #Post#: 58420--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: Gellchom Date: October 3, 2020, 10:15 pm
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       So many of these situations are only considered insulting only
       because our society considers "old" to be BAD.
       I know I'm a broken record on this subject (and that metaphor
       shows just how old I am!  :)).
       But the very fact that it seems to apply to so many situations
       just goes to show how pervasive this ageism is.
       (That said ... nothing gets my husband to lose weight faster
       than when someone thinks he is my father.  He is 2 years older
       than I am.)
       I don't understand why it would be insulting for someone to
       mistake siblings for a couple, though.  It can happen quite
       innocently for a lot of reasons, and anyway, where is the insult
       (as opposed to squick factor)?  People often quite reasonably
       get confused about my brother and me, because he and I have the
       same last name, and my husband doesn't.  When we were all
       younger, too, and they were wearing their beards the same way,
       they looked a lot alike, so people got confused and thought that
       they were the siblings and I was the married-in.
       #Post#: 58425--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: LifeOnPluto Date: October 4, 2020, 12:00 am
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       I've also had people assume my brother was my husband. Once, we
       took a holiday together to Bali, and the hotel gave us a room
       with only (one) double bed, because "you two have the same
       surname, so we know you're a married couple!". (This was despite
       the fact that we'd specifically booked a a twin room online when
       we made our reservations!)
       On topic, yes, it's rude to automatically assume a relationship
       between two people. Unless I heard one person specifically call
       the other woman "Mum", I'd never presume that they must be a
       mother-child combo!
       #Post#: 58430--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You and Your Mother
       By: Aleko Date: October 4, 2020, 4:30 am
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       [quote]I don't understand why it would be insulting for someone
       to mistake siblings for a couple, though.  It can happen quite
       innocently for a lot of reasons, and anyway, where is the insult
       (as opposed to squick factor)?[/quote]
       The main reason being, that teens and adults in general go out
       and about with their romantic other, or even with a same-sex
       sibling, far more often than they do with an opposite-sex
       sibling; so that’s the way to bet, if you have to bet.
       In 2019 my brother and I took my 90-year-old father to Greece,
       because he wanted to see Delphi once more before he dies. We
       travelled about quite a bit, and at all our various
       accommodations the management naturally assumed that the
       twin-bedded room was for DB and me, and the single for DF, and
       were surprised when I took possession of the single. We were
       neither surprised not offended: it is far commoner to see a
       couple travelling with an elderly parent.
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