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#Post#: 58376--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: mime Date: October 2, 2020, 5:13 pm
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[quote author=Jayhawk link=topic=1881.msg58374#msg58374
date=1601667821]
[quote author=pjeans link=topic=1881.msg58362#msg58362
date=1601655987]
I agree with the consensus here.
That said, I'd love to try tapping away on an old typewriter
again. There was something very satisfying about that![/b]
[/quote]
Amazon knows what you want:
HTML https://www.amazon.com/Qwerkywriter-Typewriter-Inspired-Mechanical-Wireless/dp/B01KM6EJOY
[/quote]
Those are great! Didn't know there was enough of a market for
that.
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Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Rose Red Date: October 2, 2020, 5:27 pm
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[quote author=pjeans link=topic=1881.msg58376#msg58376
date=1601676786]
[quote author=Jayhawk link=topic=1881.msg58374#msg58374
date=1601667821]
[quote author=pjeans link=topic=1881.msg58362#msg58362
date=1601655987]
I agree with the consensus here.
That said, I'd love to try tapping away on an old typewriter
again. There was something very satisfying about that![/b]
[/quote]
Amazon knows what you want:
HTML https://www.amazon.com/Qwerkywriter-Typewriter-Inspired-Mechanical-Wireless/dp/B01KM6EJOY
[/quote]
Those are great! Didn't know there was enough of a market for
that.
[/quote]
I'd love one except for the price tag.
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Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Nikko-chan Date: October 2, 2020, 8:15 pm
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1881.msg58353#msg58353
date=1601649263]
[quote author=STiG link=topic=1881.msg58349#msg58349
date=1601646142]
As for portability, my Dad had one that was designed to be
portable; it even had a carrying case for it.
[/quote]
My family had a typewriter with a case in the 80's and it was
still heavy and clunky. I've seen some as small as a laptop
though.
OP, is there a link to the post so we can see the typewriter?
[/quote]
Its in the Nanowrimo group. I dont know if the group is public
or not unfortunately. Its just a girl with a pink vintage
typewriter. HOWEVER. The person who posted it has a profile
picture of a guy so.... I dunno if its a stock photo or not.
#Post#: 58381--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Isisnin Date: October 2, 2020, 10:09 pm
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1881.msg58339#msg58339
date=1601637600]
Pretentious. Like others said, vintage typewriters are heavy so
she had to make an effort to show off and seek attention.
The sitcom Two Broke Girls is not the best show, but there was a
scene where a customer was using a typewriter in the diner and
one of the main characters (a waitress) called him out on all
his hipster steampunk pretentiousness. So this situation may not
be as rare as we think. ::) This girl is trying to be edgy and
original but she's not. Just annoying with all the noise. And
noise means "look at me."
[/quote]
"Two Broke Girls is not the best show" completely agree. wonder
if that's where the pretentious one got the idea.
[quote author=pjeans link=topic=1881.msg58362#msg58362
date=1601655987]
.....
That said, I'd love to try tapping away on an old typewriter
again. There was something very satisfying about that!
...
[/quote]
For some reason I don't recall, I had an occasion to use an old
typewrite after getting used to a computer keyboard. The old
typewriter was brutal to use! You really had to hit each key
hard. IF you could compare the hands of someone who used a
manual typewriter to the hands of a computer user, I wouldn't be
surprised if the manual user had "muscle-bound looking" fingers.
The sound was great though. I think it was the "bing! zing!" at
the end of a line that was so satisfying:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFWXgB0wpsU&ab_channel=God
#Post#: 58385--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Limmershin Date: October 3, 2020, 6:17 am
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[quote author=Amara link=topic=1881.msg58370#msg58370
date=1601659617]
Real writing is work. Taking a typewriter to a coffee shop is
showing off. Real writers work, they don't show off.
[/quote]
Off at rather a tangent here: but this post reminds me of a
recent exchange on another message board, about the author James
A. Michener. There was quoted, a man who had served with
Michener in the U.S. Navy in World War II. He was asked, what
was Michener like "in normal life": replied that he didn't
really know -- the guy hardly spoke to anyone: "any free time we
got, he was off in his own world, 'glued to' his wretched
typewriter". One could sort-of say that J.A.M. was doing both --
of course, three-quarters of a century ago the only typewriters
were (I think) manual ones...
#Post#: 58392--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Rose Red Date: October 3, 2020, 7:24 am
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I remember a newspaper columnist who loves everything old
fashioned and nostalgic. He was once asked if he misses
typewriters. He thought about it and pulled his old electronic
typewriter out, and decided a big fat NO. He doesn't miss it at
all. He wrote that computer keyboards are a much lighter touch
and document are so easy to correct.
#Post#: 58398--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: October 3, 2020, 11:02 am
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Years ago, I did my own amateur writing, and although I used a
manual typewriter to type up what I wrote, the actual creative
part was pen and paper. It is so much easier scribbling out and
trying different words, and changing my mind one sentence down.
I vote pretentious and rude (so much noise!).
My old manual was a portable - just a cover that locked over it.
It truly was light and portable. But I did have to bang away,
and changing ribbons was a pain.
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Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: LifeOnPluto Date: October 4, 2020, 12:37 am
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Loud typing in a public place such as a coffee shop is obviously
disruptive and rude, I think we can all agree on that.
However, I'm genuinely baffled by all the comments about
typewriters being inherently pretentious and attention-seeking.
Granted, I love old items, but if I saw someone using a vintage
typewriter, my first thought would be "Wow, how cool is that old
typewriter! I wonder where they got it?" not "Urg, that person
is clearly using a typewriter for the sole purpose of showing
off." I'm also a writer, and I say if a typewriter is your tool
of choice, then more power to you! (Noting off course, you
shouldn't disturb others with it - see first sentence!).
Further, I'm uncomfortable with the notion that using
old-fashioned or unusual things in public is somehow
"distracting" and therefore rude. What about a person who
listens to a 1981 Sony Walkman in a coffee shop? What about a
person who enjoys wearing an old-fashioned 3-piece suit and hat
in public? What about a person who drives a vintage car on
public roads?
In the example given, I agree the girl is rude for wanting to
bring a vintage typewriter to a coffee-shop - but only because
it would be too noisy. If she wanted to bring say, her 1980 Golf
Ball electric typewriter (which is much quieter), I think she'd
be fine! And I think it would be unkind and unfair to accuse the
girl of being pretentious and showing off simply because she
chooses to use an old-fashioned and unusual item in public.
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Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: Nikko-chan Date: October 4, 2020, 3:29 am
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[quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=1881.msg58426#msg58426
date=1601789870]
Loud typing in a public place such as a coffee shop is obviously
disruptive and rude, I think we can all agree on that.
However, I'm genuinely baffled by all the comments about
typewriters being inherently pretentious and attention-seeking.
Granted, I love old items, but if I saw someone using a vintage
typewriter, my first thought would be "Wow, how cool is that old
typewriter! I wonder where they got it?" not "Urg, that person
is clearly using a typewriter for the sole purpose of showing
off." I'm also a writer, and I say if a typewriter is your tool
of choice, then more power to you! (Noting off course, you
shouldn't disturb others with it - see first sentence!).
Further, I'm uncomfortable with the notion that using
old-fashioned or unusual things in public is somehow
"distracting" and therefore rude. What about a person who
listens to a 1981 Sony Walkman in a coffee shop? What about a
person who enjoys wearing an old-fashioned 3-piece suit and hat
in public? What about a person who drives a vintage car on
public roads?
In the example given, I agree the girl is rude for wanting to
bring a vintage typewriter to a coffee-shop - but only because
it would be too noisy. If she wanted to bring say, her 1980 Golf
Ball electric typewriter (which is much quieter), I think she'd
be fine! And I think it would be unkind and unfair to accuse the
girl of being pretentious and showing off simply because she
chooses to use an old-fashioned and unusual item in public.
[/quote]
What makes her (him? its really confusing) pretentious and over
the top in my mind is the picture posted with the BEAMING "LOOK
AT ME! LOOKIT ME WRITING! LOOKIT!" smile. They didnt have to add
the picture. Also the phrasing of her (his?) post was "Is it a
faux pas to use a vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop? I dont
think it is cause it (Read that as "I and my glorious vintage
typewriter!") add to the ambiance. Besides, everyone has air
pods in anyway (as tho people who have airpods are pretentious
and i can GUARANTEE not everyone has airpods. A lot of them will
probably be using wired earbuds.)"
Later in the thread when everyone was calling them out, and were
just like "You can use a paper and pen if you go lo tech it
works just fine!"
Their response? "But i dont like paper and pen!!!"
Us: then use a freaking laptop! But for the love of all that is
holy PLEASE dont bring your click clack to the cafe. The
baristas and EVERYONE in the cafe will likely hate you.
Them: But the typewriter!!!!!
Us: We love old typewriters too! We love how they look, and
sound. We even love the feel of the keys! But there is a time
and place for typewriters, and at a cafe is NOT it.
Everything we told them, they had a defense for. THAT is what is
raising everyone's hackles. Their post reeked of "LOOKIT ME, I
AM SO SPESHUL AND BETTER THAN EVERYONE AND I DONT CARE IF THEY
DON'T LIKE MY NOISE! LOOKIT! ISNT IT PRETTY?! DOESN'T ANYONE
ELSE FEEL THE WAY I DO?!?!?"
They were seeking validation for their noise and disruption,
everyone called them out on it, AND then they attacked us
instead of you know, doing what we would do here, which is take
it with grace and be like "Oh shit. I messed up. Next time I
will use a pen and paper, or a laptop. Thanks guys!"
Like someone else said in the comments on the original post
"There's a difference between wanting to write and wanting to be
seen writing."
Another person said: "It feels like an attention seeking attempt
to play the part of an author, like a role in a play"
The OP: Arent we just all playing roles in the theatre of life?
Same Person: Well yes... but that doesn't mean we have to be
annoying to others.
The OP: Every story needs a villain!
The above is to illustrate that the OP wasnt getting it. All of
us were saying (some of us even gently) That there is a time and
place for certain things, and a public place with a bulky
vintage typewriter was not ideal, would annoy people, would
cause HoH people to leave, there are people that exist with
misophonia, they would be gone, etc. and the poster. wasnt.
getting. it.
We arent attacking vintage typewriters themselves. We are
attacking the pretentious actions of the person using the
object. I love vintage typewriters. Would I lug it to a cafe and
make a spectacle of myself? Hell no. Would I dress vintage in
public and people think me weird? Hell yes. The difference? I am
not affecting their lives when I dress vintage. They might think
I'm odd, but that is as far as it goes. With a clanging banging
typewriter going DING! every few minutes, that affects other
people, and THAT is why its seen as pretentious.
#Post#: 58432--------------------------------------------------
Re: Vintage typewriter in a coffeeshop--- rude?
By: oogyda Date: October 4, 2020, 6:12 am
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[quote author=LifeOnPluto link=topic=1881.msg58426#msg58426
date=1601789870]
Loud typing in a public place such as a coffee shop is obviously
disruptive and rude, I think we can all agree on that.
However, I'm genuinely baffled by all the comments about
typewriters being inherently pretentious and attention-seeking.
Granted, I love old items, but if I saw someone using a vintage
typewriter, my first thought would be "Wow, how cool is that old
typewriter! I wonder where they got it?" not "Urg, that person
is clearly using a typewriter for the sole purpose of showing
off." I'm also a writer, and I say if a typewriter is your tool
of choice, then more power to you! (Noting off course, you
shouldn't disturb others with it - see first sentence!).
Further, I'm uncomfortable with the notion that using
old-fashioned or unusual things in public is somehow
"distracting" and therefore rude. What about a person who
listens to a 1981 Sony Walkman in a coffee shop? What about a
person who enjoys wearing an old-fashioned 3-piece suit and hat
in public? What about a person who drives a vintage car on
public roads?
In the example given, I agree the girl is rude for wanting to
bring a vintage typewriter to a coffee-shop - but only because
it would be too noisy. If she wanted to bring say, her 1980 Golf
Ball electric typewriter (which is much quieter), I think she'd
be fine! And I think it would be unkind and unfair to accuse the
girl of being pretentious and showing off simply because she
chooses to use an old-fashioned and unusual item in public.
[/quote]
I can only speak from my own experience, but it seems like many
here feel the same.
I've known many truly unique people in my life. Some have
"quirks" that are tolerated because that is simply "how they
are".
I've also known many people who try really hard to be unique and
it very often falls flat. It's an affectation. Put on for show
(and attention) to either force you to think they are unique or
to give them a sense of being unique. The fact that this writer
put it out as a question makes me feel like it's very much the
latter.
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