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Re: Okay Karen
By: nznetty Date: January 22, 2021, 10:29 am
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[quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1871.msg62883#msg62883
date=1611323595]
[quote author=nznetty link=topic=1871.msg62882#msg62882
date=1611322350]
[quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1871.msg58192#msg58192
date=1601407161]
It's not as bad, but I also feel sorry for the guys named
Sheldon.
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And women named Ebony :-\
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What's wrong with Ebony?
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Luci Date: January 23, 2021, 12:51 pm
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Our daughter Karen named her daughter Alexa. She asked on
Facebook if anyone wanted us to name their children.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Contrarian Date: February 7, 2021, 9:02 pm
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To the point of “Karen” meaning “special snowflake”, why call
anyone “special snowflake”?
Why name call at all? Reading through this thread I’m surprised
at the delight in name calling.
We’re adults. Describe and recognize behaviour. Maybe I just
don’t understand memes. I really hate labels.
My name isn’t Karen but I find the whole delight in the idea
distasteful.
Watching humans behave badly to other humans is now popular
entertainment. I guess it always has been. But it looks to me
like the nasty circle of kids on the playground who laugh when
one kid is bullying the other. It doesn’t matter that they’re
laughing at the bully or the victim. It’s all the same thing.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: peony Date: February 9, 2021, 6:15 am
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[quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1871.msg63459#msg63459
date=1612753328]
To the point of “Karen” meaning “special snowflake”, why call
anyone “special snowflake”?
Why name call at all? Reading through this thread I’m surprised
at the delight in name calling.
We’re adults. Describe and recognize behaviour. Maybe I just
don’t understand memes. I really hate labels.
My name isn’t Karen but I find the whole delight in the idea
distasteful.
Watching humans behave badly to other humans is now popular
entertainment. I guess it always has been. But it looks to me
like the nasty circle of kids on the playground who laugh when
one kid is bullying the other. It doesn’t matter that they’re
laughing at the bully or the victim. It’s all the same thing.
[/quote]
"Describe and recognize behaviour" is exactly what we are doing
in here. I don't see any delight in name-calling like you
describe. Are you sure you replied to the right thread?
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Contrarian Date: February 9, 2021, 2:34 pm
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Calling someone a Karen is name calling. Calling someone a
special snowflake is name calling.
Sitting around laughing at memes of women screaming at clerks is
a bit weird.
It’s fine that you don’t agree with me, but saying that someone
was being aggressive with a cashier is describing a behaviour.
Calling someone a Karen is name calling. It insinuates the
behaviour is a never changing thing, it eternally labels the
person so they are no longer looked as individuals but as the
label they have been given.
It’s funny how some people who get upset if the word “girl” or
“lady” is used, love making “Karen” jokes. I just don’t
understand the logic.
Most people have a word that they think is horribly offensive
and then has a list of words that they believe are fair game and
“a joke”, that are someone else’s horribly offensive word.
This is just another one of those words. A label. It’s name
calling. Honestly, I don’t see how you would use an actual name
to call someone a thing and not call it name calling.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Jem Date: February 9, 2021, 2:41 pm
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[quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1871.msg63500#msg63500
date=1612902853]
Calling someone a Karen is name calling. It insinuates the
behaviour is a never changing thing, it eternally labels the
person so they are no longer looked as individuals but as the
label they have been given.
[/quote]
I suppose some people may use "Karen" this way, but in my
experience it is far more lighthearted than that and it is
describing an over-the-top reaction as opposed to labeling a
person as being 100% over-the-top all the time.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: chigger Date: February 9, 2021, 3:38 pm
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"Karen" has been used very frequently to refer to a entitled,
rude white woman of a certain age! It's become a slur. When a
gender, race and age are all summed up as "Karen" it's right up
there with calling someone Welfare ******. Karen is my name.
The slur has become so prevalent that I cringe to give my name!
Then normally clarify that I'm no t one of "those Karens". So
yes, Jem it is name calling! No matter how lighthearted you and
your friend use it!
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Re: Okay Karen
By: chigger Date: February 9, 2021, 4:04 pm
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Jem, this is the second time you have posted on this thread
saying you and your friends use it in a "lighthearted way". You
have never seen the many, many headlines about all the rascist
Karens"! There is nothing I can say to make you realize how it
makes a lot of us feel, but that's okay, because you don't mean
it as a slur, you're just being lighthearted. So it's all okay.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Hmmm Date: February 10, 2021, 8:53 am
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[quote author=Jem link=topic=1871.msg63501#msg63501
date=1612903274]
[quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1871.msg63500#msg63500
date=1612902853]
Calling someone a Karen is name calling. It insinuates the
behaviour is a never changing thing, it eternally labels the
person so they are no longer looked as individuals but as the
label they have been given.
[/quote]
I suppose some people may use "Karen" this way, but in my
experience it is far more lighthearted than that and it is
describing an over-the-top reaction as opposed to labeling a
person as being 100% over-the-top all the time.
[/quote]
I understand that any negative term can be used amongst friends
in a light hearted way. It still astonishes me to hear women
call each other B*tch in what is supposed to be a friendly
manner.
But my issue with using "Karen" as a highlighterted slur is that
you are still propagating the use of a common name as a slur and
it is offensive to those people who have the name. I know you've
said you wouldn't mind if your name was turned into a negative
term. While I like to think I have thick skin, I'd be bothered
to hear my name suddenly being used to imply someone is
Xenophobic or suffers from Negrophobia.
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Re: Okay Karen
By: Jem Date: February 10, 2021, 9:13 am
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[quote author=chigger link=topic=1871.msg63503#msg63503
date=1612908292]
Jem, this is the second time you have posted on this thread
saying you and your friends use it in a "lighthearted way". You
have never seen the many, many headlines about all the rascist
Karens"! There is nothing I can say to make you realize how it
makes a lot of us feel, but that's okay, because you don't mean
it as a slur, you're just being lighthearted. So it's all okay.
[/quote]
This is not a term my friends or I personally use frequently. My
point was this: "...it is describing an over-the-top reaction as
opposed to labeling a person as being 100% over-the-top all the
time."
I am not saying no one should be offended. Different people will
react differently. My point was only that not all people view
the term and its use the same way.
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