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       #Post#: 57971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: Jem Date: September 24, 2020, 2:37 pm
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       I thought your joke was funny! I think being a Karen is more
       about how a message is conveyed than the message itself. An
       example: my husband and I were at a restaurant recently and
       ordered a pizza that was supposed to have pepperoni, sausage,
       and portabello mushrooms. We are "regulars" and know our server.
       When we got the pizza, my husband said something like, "Not to
       be a Karen*, but I think the sausage is missing?" Our server
       looked and said, "Ugh - we have a new cook and he keeps doing
       that on this pizza! I'll go have him make another one." We said
       that no, it was fine, no worries, we didn't need the sausage.
       Our server later reduced our bill, but we didn't ask her to. No
       manager was involved. No cooks were fired. No blood pressure or
       voices were raised.
       *for some reason our circle of friends has been joking with each
       other about being Karens a lot recently, so this is something we
       refer to frequently! Hah!
       #Post#: 57972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: Rose Red Date: September 24, 2020, 2:49 pm
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       Yes, it's all about attitude. Years ago, I was at a restaurant
       and my appetizer was cold inside. They took it back and it was
       still cold when it came back. I didn't make a big deal; I just
       wanted hot food. The manager came to apologize and to comp the
       dish. I was surprised and said they didn't have to, but he
       insisted.
       A Karen would have made the waiter cry, demand groveling, the
       waiter fired, and free meals for the next year. From the stories
       I read, that's not an exaggeration.
       #Post#: 57974--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 24, 2020, 3:03 pm
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=1871.msg57970#msg57970
       date=1600974724]
       Male Karens are Kevins.
       I know a Karen who is Karen epitomized.
       [/quote]
       On Reddit, there is a convention of a Kevin being an
       overconfident but flatly stupid and immature guy.
       #Post#: 57975--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 24, 2020, 3:04 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1871.msg57972#msg57972
       date=1600976974]
       Yes, it's all about attitude. Years ago, I was at a restaurant
       and my appetizer was cold inside. They took it back and it was
       still cold when it came back. I didn't make a big deal; I just
       wanted hot food. The manager came to apologize and to comp the
       dish. I was surprised and said they didn't have to, but he
       insisted.
       A Karen would have made the waiter cry, demand groveling, the
       waiter fired, and free meals for the next year. From the stories
       I read, that's not an exaggeration.
       [/quote]
       Right--do you want it fixed, or to alert someone? Or do you want
       to enjoy the making of the fuss?
       or, is the complaint the point? or is complaining the point?
       #Post#: 57976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: chigger Date: September 24, 2020, 3:31 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1871.msg57967#msg57967
       date=1600974333]
       I feel bad for people whose name is Karen.
       I know three of them.
       One is SO NOT a Karen.
       The other is a different version of "not a Karen."
       And the third can be a Karen sometimes, and has been in the
       past.
       The name was chosen, I think, because it peaked in the 1960s, so
       it denotes someone sort of older, and they're thought of as
       fussy. Most Karens are actually a little bit younger.
  HTML https://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=karen&sw=both&exact=false
       [/quote]
       I'm so very tired of the Karen memes. Now all the racist over 30
       white women are called that also. Yes, my name is Karen, and
       it's becoming almost a slur. It gets to the point that you don't
       want to introduce yourself. There are a whole lot of men around
       named Kevin, but yes Karen is a 60's and 70's name. Really not
       that many of us.
       #Post#: 57978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: Codewoman1125 Date: September 24, 2020, 3:41 pm
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       [quote author=chigger link=topic=1871.msg57976#msg57976
       date=1600979499]
       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1871.msg57967#msg57967
       date=1600974333]
       I feel bad for people whose name is Karen.
       I know three of them.
       One is SO NOT a Karen.
       The other is a different version of "not a Karen."
       And the third can be a Karen sometimes, and has been in the
       past.
       The name was chosen, I think, because it peaked in the 1960s, so
       it denotes someone sort of older, and they're thought of as
       fussy. Most Karens are actually a little bit younger.
  HTML https://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=karen&sw=both&exact=false
       [/quote]
       I'm so very tired of the Karen memes. Now all the racist over 30
       white women are called that also. Yes, my name is Karen, and
       it's becoming almost a slur. It gets to the point that you don't
       want to introduce yourself. There are a whole lot of men around
       named Kevin, but yes Karen is a 60's and 70's name. Really not
       that many of us.
       [/quote]
       I understand your frustration. And I want you to know I don't
       associate the name Karen with the personality "A Karen". You
       certainly didn't select the name. And when I heard someone
       called a "Karen" I knew what it was the instant I heard it. As I
       would if she was called <enter another name here>.
       I'm sorry, though, that they happened to choose your name.
       #Post#: 57980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: chigger Date: September 24, 2020, 3:58 pm
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       [quote author=Codewoman1125 link=topic=1871.msg57978#msg57978
       date=1600980078]
       [quote author=chigger link=topic=1871.msg57976#msg57976
       date=1600979499]
       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1871.msg57967#msg57967
       date=1600974333]
       I feel bad for people whose name is Karen.
       I know three of them.
       One is SO NOT a Karen.
       The other is a different version of "not a Karen."
       And the third can be a Karen sometimes, and has been in the
       past.
       The name was chosen, I think, because it peaked in the 1960s, so
       it denotes someone sort of older, and they're thought of as
       fussy. Most Karens are actually a little bit younger.
  HTML https://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=karen&sw=both&exact=false
       [/quote]
       I'm so very tired of the Karen memes. Now all the racist over 30
       white women are called that also. Yes, my name is Karen, and
       it's becoming almost a slur. It gets to the point that you don't
       want to introduce yourself. There are a whole lot of men around
       named Kevin, but yes Karen is a 60's and 70's name. Really not
       that many of us.
       [/quote]
       I understand your frustration. And I want you to know I don't
       associate the name Karen with the personality "A Karen". You
       certainly didn't select the name. And when I heard someone
       called a "Karen" I knew what it was the instant I heard it. As I
       would if she was called <enter another name here>.
       I'm sorry, though, that they happened to choose your name.
       [/quote]
       Thank you for that! It really is getting old, really fast. I'm
       so sick of the jokes. It didn't really bother me when it was
       just "I want to speak to your manager, NOW" . But it just hurts
       me deeply, when all these racist bitches are called "Karen".
       Every white woman that behaves like a jackass to people of color
       is now named Karen. We were not raised that way, even growing up
       in the deep south. I DO realize that I'm taking it really
       personally, however, my name IS personal to me.
       ETA: I'm almost at the point that I want to switch to my middle
       name
       #Post#: 57983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 24, 2020, 5:18 pm
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       from a strictly linguistic point of view, I find the use of
       "Karen" for the racist bitches to be really annoying. Because
       wanting to speak to the manager is a very different thing. And I
       don't like them being conflated like that.
       And I am sorry that your name gets used that way.
       #Post#: 57996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: HenrysMom Date: September 24, 2020, 10:51 pm
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       According the the Urban Dictionary, a Kevin is a nice, rather
       sweet, perhaps not very smart guy.
       I’ve seen male Karens referred to as “Chads.”  I’ll let you all
       look up the Urban Dictionary entry on that one.
       #Post#: 58002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Okay Karen
       By: NewHomeowner Date: September 25, 2020, 5:44 am
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       [quote author=HenrysMom link=topic=1871.msg57996#msg57996
       date=1601005879]
       According the the Urban Dictionary, a Kevin is a nice, rather
       sweet, perhaps not very smart guy.
       I’ve seen male Karens referred to as “Chads.”  I’ll let you all
       look up the Urban Dictionary entry on that one.
       [/quote]
       I've also seen them referred to as 'Kyle' or 'Keith'.
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