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       #Post#: 57120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: Hmmm
       Date: September 9, 2020, 10:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Kimpossible link ---
       >
       > I just noticed at the bottom of your post that you can't
       leave.
       > Do you wear a mask while she is there? If you wear a mask, try
       chewing some peppermint gum. That would hold the smell of
       peppermint near your nose. It could help. Another option would
       be to use some vapo-rub under your nose, under the mask.
       > I can't see how you can say something about her smell without
       sounding bad. It's not as though she's dirty or unkempt. The
       product use is part of a grooming routine.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's a really good idea. You might also buy an air purifier
       and put it in the room where she spends most of her time. I
       think to deal with fragrance or odors, you need to buy one with
       a carbon filter. A co-worker had one in her office a few years
       back.
       #Post#: 57126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: September 9, 2020, 12:19 pm
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       I'll try the mask next time.  I can try the gum but the vapour
       rub is a no go - it would trigger me.
       I may still ask about a hair covering.  While it likely won't
       completely mitigate the issue, it may help a bit with the
       lingering scent.
       And I discovered why I got this weird migraine.  I managed to
       forget to take my medication two days in a row.  ::)  I've taken
       it today and by the time tomorrow's dose goes in, I should be
       feeling better again.
       #Post#: 57130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: lakey
       Date: September 9, 2020, 12:43 pm
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       I've heard of putting a small amount of toothpaste under your
       nose to mitigate scent. Would be similar to gum, but perhaps a
       bit more effective because it is right under your nostrils.
       #Post#: 57131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: Dazi
       Date: September 9, 2020, 1:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: STiG link ---
       >
       > I'll try the mask next time.  I can try the gum but the vapour
       rub is a no go - it would trigger me.
       >
       > I may still ask about a hair covering.  While it likely won't
       completely mitigate the issue, it may help a bit with the
       lingering scent.
       >
       > And I discovered why I got this weird migraine.  I managed to
       forget to take my medication two days in a row.  ::)  I've taken
       it today and by the time tomorrow's dose goes in, I should be
       feeling better again.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ugh, I hate when that happens. One of the reasons I switched to
       one of the monthly injections. Way more effective and I don't
       have to worry if I'm off by a few days.
       #Post#: 57136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: Jem
       Date: September 9, 2020, 2:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: Kimpossible link ---
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       >
       > I can't see how you can say something about her smell without
       sounding bad. It's not as though she's dirty or unkempt. The
       product use is part of a grooming routine.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree. I think you can certainly mention it to her, but I
       don't think you can expect her to not be offended.
       #Post#: 57137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: September 9, 2020, 2:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: Kimpossible link ---
       >
       > I just noticed at the bottom of your post that you can't
       leave.
       > Do you wear a mask while she is there? If you wear a mask, try
       chewing some peppermint gum. That would hold the smell of
       peppermint near your nose. It could help. Another option would
       be to use some vapo-rub under your nose, under the mask.
       > I can't see how you can say something about her smell without
       sounding bad. It's not as though she's dirty or unkempt. The
       product use is part of a grooming routine.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's why OP would make it clear that it's the smell of the
       PRODUCT.
       There's a huge difference between "Your hair smells bad."  and
       "The gel you use on your hair triggers my sensitivities."
       #Post#: 57140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: September 9, 2020, 3:24 pm
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       You like this woman and her work enough that you are willing to
       come up with solution rather than simply nix her. I would open
       with that. "Dad and I love the work that you are doing so it
       pains me to have to mention this. However, you will recall our
       conversation about my scent sensitivity. Well, I think it may be
       one of the hair products that you use. Can we brain storm some
       ideas that may help me? Dad and I don't want to lose you!" Then
       I would tell her that you're going to try a mask and the air
       purifier and <insert all the awesome ideas that you get here>.
       Then you can even suggest a few things that you think might help
       from her end, however she may have a few of her own or even be
       able to not use the product on the day that she visits you. And
       acknowledge that any efforts that she is willing to do is HUGE.
       I think I would want to be approached in this sort of manner.
       #Post#: 57170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: September 10, 2020, 2:13 am
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       In OP&#8217;s place I wouldn&#8217;t even use the words
       &#8216;scent&#8217; or &#8216;smell&#8217;. It&#8217;s very hard
       not to feel deep-down, viscerally offended on being told that
       there&#8217;s something wrong with the way one smells, however
       unreasonable one knows that reaction to be. I would say
       something along the lines of &#8216;one of the chemicals in the
       gel on your hair trips my migraine reaction&#8217;. I think
       calling it a problem about &#8216;a chemical&#8217; rather than
       &#8216;a smell&#8217; would come across better.
       Edited to add: it's also more accurate. What you can smell is
       the perfume the manufacturer added to the product; but what
       you're actually breathing in is a whole cocktail of chemicals,
       many of which may have little or no smell. You can't actually
       know that it's the perfume that's causing the trouble.
       #Post#: 57176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: sms
       Date: September 10, 2020, 7:41 am
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       --- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
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       > You like this woman and her work enough that you are willing
       to come up with solution rather than simply nix her. I would
       open with that. "Dad and I love the work that you are doing so
       it pains me to have to mention this. However, you will recall
       our conversation about my scent sensitivity. Well, I think it
       may be one of the hair products that you use. Can we brain storm
       some ideas that may help me? Dad and I don't want to lose you!"
       Then I would tell her that you're going to try a mask and the
       air purifier and <insert all the awesome ideas that you get
       here>. Then you can even suggest a few things that you think
       might help from her end, however she may have a few of her own
       or even be able to not use the product on the day that she
       visits you. And acknowledge that any efforts that she is willing
       to do is HUGE. I think I would want to be approached in this
       sort of manner.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think this is the nicest way to go about it.
       #Post#: 57207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to Speak to Someone Regarding a Scent
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: September 10, 2020, 1:18 pm
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       I've been reading a series of hair-care stories on Glamour.com,
       and I've discovered that women with the hair-care and
       hair-styling issues you describe actually don't wash their hair
       that often; that they treat it and then end up having to leave
       it alone for a few days. To wash it more often is very damaging
       to it.
       So using a different product for just that day might not be
       something she can do.
       But I do like your text.
       And i think you could reach out to the agency for help
       communicating this as well, because that would be a great way to
       tell them how good she is at her job, and if you end up having
       to switch her for someone else, she won't be hurt by it,
       financially or in terms of her reputation at work.
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