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       #Post#: 56937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: sandisadie Date: September 5, 2020, 9:35 am
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       I used to have a sign by my door that said "this is a no
       solicitation neighborhood".  Someone came to my door.  I
       answered and pointed to the sign and said "did you read the
       sign".  And he said he didn't know what it meant.  I believed
       him.   Our neighborhood has such signage at all the entrances,
       but every once in awhile someone is going around ringing
       doorbells anyway.  If they say they have a city permit we just
       inform them that our neighborhood signs are approved by the city
       and overrides their permit.
       #Post#: 56953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: OnyxBird Date: September 5, 2020, 5:06 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1840.msg56931#msg56931
       date=1599308019]
       ^ But you don't know if a sign will help or not. Try it once. If
       it works, great. If not, at least you know. Just because your
       friend ignores it doesn't mean everyone will. I only had maybe 2
       or 3 sales people ring my doorbell in the 10 years after I out
       up my sign. And those were the roofing people who may be
       insurance scammers. The legitimate companies leave flyers which
       I much prefer.
       [/quote]
       Also, in this case, if a "No Solicitation" sign appears after
       they've been ringing your doorbell daily, there's a chance
       they'll realize that this is a direct response to them (and you
       could take it back down after you think they've moved on, if
       you're not sure it's allowed). Even if they routinely ignore "No
       Solicitation" signs, if they notice you put one up due to them,
       it tends to communicate that 1) the occupant is aware they've
       been ringing the doorbell, 2) the occupant is not interested,
       and most importantly, 3) the occupant isn't even going to
       dignify their sales call by opening the door to tell them to go
       away face to face, meaning that ignoring the sign will not get
       them a chance to make their pitch. If they assume they've just
       been ringing the bell when no one was home, then they think they
       still have a chance--if they know you know they're there and
       simply aren't going to interact with them, they know trying
       again is just a waste of their time. (Granted, there are some
       people in the world who would want to annoy you just out of
       spite if they realized the sign was in response to them, but
       these folks don't seem inclined to stop until they're done with
       your area anyway, and I'd guess most door-to-door folks don't
       want to waste their time for zero chance of making a sale.)
       I'm guessing they may be done anyway, though. Going from once a
       day to four times on Friday makes me think Friday may have been
       their last day in your neighborhood, so they were pulling out
       all the stops to try to catch the elusive Phantom Homeowner at
       home before they gave up.
       #Post#: 56958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: Lula Date: September 5, 2020, 7:18 pm
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1840.msg56916#msg56916
       date=1599269438]
       Thanks everyone! It doesn't sound like anyone thus far feels
       that the sales people's behavior is excessive. I would hope that
       there is some point that we would find it tacky. None-the-less,
       their tactics have made me less interested in their services.
       ::)
       [/quote]
       FTR, I think these salespeople's behavior is excessive.
       Multiple attempts in one day?  Are they camped out in the
       neighborhood somewhere?
       #Post#: 56971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: Mrs Rat Date: September 6, 2020, 5:20 am
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       We don't like to advertise that hubby works nights but have a
       sign on the door that says "do not disturb between 9am - 5pm
       except deliveries" ... we have the groceries delivered once a
       week and the odd packages. The odd time someone has been brave
       enough to knock I usually get the line 'oh that doesn't apply to
       me' then I shut the door in their face. On the days hubby is up
       between those hours it gets quite hilarious, he is a big and
       tall guy with a deep booming voice. He quite vocally asks if
       they have read the sign, they usually answer yes, then he asks
       why the hell they knocked not giving them a chance to answer he
       then escorts them off the property. The place we're in now has a
       gate with a padlock.
       #Post#: 56972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: Aleko Date: September 6, 2020, 5:48 am
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       I'm with oogyda in thinking that they have no way of knowing
       that you have been deliberately ignoring their ringing - you
       might have been away, or even be deaf. And it may well be that
       they are under corporate instructions to speak to every
       householder in the neighbourhood, or else. My advice would be to
       answer the door and say 'I know you're from Verizon, I know what
       you're selling, and the answer is no.' Then, if I'm right, they
       can tick the box with a sigh of relief, go away and never come
       back.
       #Post#: 56976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: gramma dishes Date: September 6, 2020, 8:03 am
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       I can't help but wonder if some of these people might not be
       census takers.
       #Post#: 56979--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: Gellchom Date: September 6, 2020, 8:50 am
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       I agree with the advice to answer the door and tell them no
       thanks, you’re not interested.
       And why not say it nicely?  I can’t see how closing the door in
       someone’s face without a word accomplishes the goal any more
       effectively than simply saying, “No thank you, we're not
       interested.  Please don’t call again.”  I feel the same way
       about phone solicitors.  I don’t have to answer the phone, but
       if I do, I don’t just hang up on a human (fortunately, it’s
       usually a recording) or, worse, blow a loud whistle or
       something.
       I mean, this dreary job is probably the best one that this
       person could find, and they don’t get paid much, at that.  We
       all hate being interrupted by sales pitches, but I don’t think
       it justifies being rude and even mean to them.
       These are particularly stressful times.  We can help by being
       kind.
       #Post#: 56981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: September 6, 2020, 9:39 am
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       [quote author=Lula link=topic=1840.msg56958#msg56958
       date=1599351509]
       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1840.msg56916#msg56916
       date=1599269438]
       Thanks everyone! It doesn't sound like anyone thus far feels
       that the sales people's behavior is excessive. I would hope that
       there is some point that we would find it tacky. None-the-less,
       their tactics have made me less interested in their services.
       ::)
       [/quote]
       FTR, I think these salespeople's behavior is excessive.
       Multiple attempts in one day?  Are they camped out in the
       neighborhood somewhere?
       [/quote]
       Thanks! This is what I truly was interested in (although I would
       never deny anyone conversation.) I live a large housing plan
       which is mostly made up with smaller homes and townhouses, so we
       are tight together. It would take someone days to visit every
       house (hence why I knew they were coming.) My best guess is that
       they are knocking and then moving on to the next home and then
       circling back around to anyone who didn't answer the first
       time... at least on Friday. It's entirely possible that they are
       simply visiting other homes in-between trying mine. They could
       be sitting in a car somewhere waiting to come back to me, but I
       doubt that I am that special!
       #Post#: 57002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: Rose Red Date: September 6, 2020, 3:24 pm
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       [quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1840.msg56979#msg56979
       date=1599400229]
       I agree with the advice to answer the door and tell them no
       thanks, you’re not interested.
       And why not say it nicely?  I can’t see how closing the door in
       someone’s face without a word accomplishes the goal any more
       effectively than simply saying, “No thank you, we're not
       interested.  Please don’t call again.”  I feel the same way
       about phone solicitors.  I don’t have to answer the phone, but
       if I do, I don’t just hang up on a human (fortunately, it’s
       usually a recording) or, worse, blow a loud whistle or
       something.
       I mean, this dreary job is probably the best one that this
       person could find, and they don’t get paid much, at that.  We
       all hate being interrupted by sales pitches, but I don’t think
       it justifies being rude and even mean to them.
       These are particularly stressful times.  We can help by being
       kind.
       [/quote]
       I'm one of those who said I close the door in salespeople's
       faces, but I do so after saying "no thanks." I close it only if
       they keep talking and talking.
       I remember one time when I said no thanks and I'll read their
       brochure and call if I ever need their services. They kept
       trying to push me to sign up for something I don't want and
       can't afford anyway. That's when I gave them an incredulous look
       and closed the door in the middle of their speech. If I ever
       need that service in the future, they just guaranteed it won't
       be from them.
       Sometimes being nice and kind is something they view as a
       challenge to beat. Think MLM tactics.
       #Post#: 57006--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Too Many Ding Dongs?
       By: silversurfer Date: September 6, 2020, 6:58 pm
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       That is way to many ding dongs! (also a side note, a ding dong
       is a kind of a term of endearment at our place, when someone you
       love does something silly, they generally get called a goose or
       a ding dong).
       On the subject of signs - we have one up that says 'No
       soliciting - don't ring the doorbell, don't make it weird' and
       it is like magic. We haven't had a single solicitor in a couple
       of years. And if I ever do get one, I can say 'you just made it
       weird' and close the door.
       I would continue to ignore. No one has the right to bother you
       at your house to sell something!
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