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Re: e-begging
By: DaDancingPsych Date: October 17, 2023, 5:48 am
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[quote author=Lula link=topic=1828.msg80266#msg80266
date=1697501040]
Somewhat related: if you go on Facebook and beg your friends to
vote for your kid in some contest, I'm going over to the link
you provide, perusing all the entries, and voting for the
entrant who deserves to win based on their work. Your kid
entered a competition of skill, not a parental popularity
contest.
[/quote]
I do the same. If their kid is worthy, they will get my vote.
Otherwise, I vote for the one I feel is best. I have certainly
seen this as e-begging and then I've seen where I thought it was
not. "Little Timmy is a finalist in a photo contest. Here is the
link where you can vote for your favorite."
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Re: e-begging
By: TootsNYC Date: October 17, 2023, 11:13 am
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[quote author=vintagegal link=topic=1828.msg79340#msg79340
date=1684452550]
One of my grandkids (high school age) has an online fundraiser
for his sports team. What ever happened to bake sales, car
washes, etc? Just straight up "give me money." (I didn't).
[/quote]
Well, this came about from people who said, "I don't want any
damn wrapping paper--why don't they just ask me for the money? I
could spend $7 on wrapping paper, and you'll get $3.50; if you
ask me for $10, you can keep it all."
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Re: e-begging
By: vintagegal Date: October 18, 2023, 4:47 pm
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1828.msg80272#msg80272
date=1697559219]
[quote author=vintagegal link=topic=1828.msg79340#msg79340
date=1684452550]
One of my grandkids (high school age) has an online fundraiser
for his sports team. What ever happened to bake sales, car
washes, etc? Just straight up "give me money." (I didn't).
[/quote]
Well, this came about from people who said, "I don't want any
damn wrapping paper--why don't they just ask me for the money? I
could spend $7 on wrapping paper, and you'll get $3.50; if you
ask me for $10, you can keep it all."
[/quote]
Or they could provide some kind of a service and learn the
equation that work = rewards. Not "just ask people for money
when you want it."
I used to live in a town with a great private/public middle and
high school. I regularly paid $5 for a brownie when they had a
bake sale, because they were supporting a creche in India, or
one time they were taking a class trip to Washington DC and one
of the parents told me it was going to be tech free. No phones,
no tablets, no laptops. The chaperones would send out one email
a day to the parents. I thought that was a GREAT idea. Also they
have a yearly or twice yearly "work day" where you can hire the
students to do yard work, stack firewood, or whatever. Great
lesson for the kids.
#Post#: 80289--------------------------------------------------
Re: e-begging
By: NFPwife Date: October 19, 2023, 8:27 am
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Good point Toots, I'm the let me just give you cash type. We
don't eat most of what they're selling and I'm trying to shift
from wrapping paper to nice reusable totes or baskets so I offer
cash instead.
We just shifted our charitable contributions to a donor advised
fund so I'm going to be doubling down on just sending a monetary
amount for worthy causes. It's also going to make saying, "No,"
so much easier.
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Re: e-begging
By: oogyda Date: October 19, 2023, 10:52 am
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My objection to the wrapping paper/cookie dough/sales
fundraisers has always been the amount of money it costs the
organization raising funds. Normally, it's around 50%.
Frankly, I like to know that ALL of my money is going toward the
effort.
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Re: e-begging
By: NFPwife Date: October 19, 2023, 11:19 am
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[quote author=oogyda link=topic=1828.msg80295#msg80295
date=1697730772]
My objection to the wrapping paper/cookie dough/sales
fundraisers has always been the amount of money it costs the
organization raising funds. Normally, it's around 50%.
Frankly, I like to know that ALL of my money is going toward the
effort.
[/quote]
Agree. I also hate the way they hype up the kids to hit sales
levels for some, usually crappy, prizes. It feels MLM to me.
(Speaking of MLMs, my friend was going through all of the layers
of percentages on an MLM makeup sale and I said, "What's the
actual cost of the mascara? $3?" )
#Post#: 81100--------------------------------------------------
Re: e-begging
By: Star Wars Fan Date: April 5, 2024, 1:45 pm
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I hate it too, and even if it's more "acceptable" to younger
generations nowadays I'll never respond to any of these "fund
me" things I see on Facebook. It's just rude and tacky.
Ed.
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Re: e-begging
By: Hmmm Date: April 9, 2024, 1:01 pm
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[quote author=PVZFan link=topic=1828.msg80296#msg80296
date=1697732353]
[quote author=oogyda link=topic=1828.msg80295#msg80295
date=1697730772]
My objection to the wrapping paper/cookie dough/sales
fundraisers has always been the amount of money it costs the
organization raising funds. Normally, it's around 50%.
Frankly, I like to know that ALL of my money is going toward the
effort.
[/quote]
Agree. I also hate the way they hype up the kids to hit sales
levels for some, usually crappy, prizes. It feels MLM to me.
(Speaking of MLMs, my friend was going through all of the layers
of percentages on an MLM makeup sale and I said, "What's the
actual cost of the mascara? $3?" )
[/quote]
Agree. I was listening to an NPR program about the sales
practice. The companies are now wining and dining PTO
organizations to get them to use their sales program.
When my DD was in middle school, her choir had a sales program
for a line of products I just wasn't a fan of. An example was a
$8 seasoning packet that was salt and garlic with a few herbs or
a $20 lavender sachet that you could buy anywhere else for $5. I
looked up the percentage of sales that went to the school,
looked at the minimum sales target they expected from each child
(really parent) took that and added 30% and told the choir
teacher I was writing a check for that amount but we wouldn't be
selling the product. She had an absolute fit and "insisted" each
child needed to hit the minimum target in sales. I still refused
and found out she started retaliating against my daughter in
subtle ways. I took it to the assistant principal. We were
pretty sure she was getting some type of kickback. I'm not
really sure what happened but I do know that line of products
were no longer approved for sales at the middle school the next
year.
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Re: e-begging
By: Aleko Date: April 10, 2024, 1:00 am
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[quote]When my DD was in middle school, her choir had a sales
program for a line of products I just wasn't a fan of. An
example was a $8 seasoning packet that was salt and garlic with
a few herbs or a $20 lavender sachet that you could buy anywhere
else for $5. I looked up the percentage of sales that went to
the school, looked at the minimum sales target they expected
from each child (really parent) took that and added 30% and told
the choir teacher I was writing a check for that amount but we
wouldn't be selling the product. She had an absolute fit and
"insisted" each child needed to hit the minimum target in sales.
I still refused and found out she started retaliating against my
daughter in subtle ways. I took it to the assistant principal.
We were pretty sure she was getting some type of kickback. I'm
not really sure what happened but I do know that line of
products were no longer approved for sales at the middle school
the next year.[/quote]
I’m gobsmacked. That is truly terrible. Even without the
specific aspects of overpricing, forcing pupils to achieve sales
quotas and possible kickbacks, it would still be terrible.
Essentially, by demanding that pupils sell merchandise to
families and friends, the school is handing their pupils to a
commercial company as a conscripted, unpaid, sales force.
I’m astonished that this activity is even legal, let alone
apparently normal, in the US: it certainly wouldn’t be over
here.
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