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On princesses
DIR By: Aleko
Date: August 14, 2020, 12:31 pm
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There's a classic historians' joke that goes like this:
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> My daughter said to me, 'I want to be Daddy's princess!' So as
soon as she turned twelve I traded her to an elderly foreigner
in exchange for his help with my war.
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is in a nutshell the function
and fate of princesses throughout Western history.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: AnnNottingham
Date: August 14, 2020, 5:55 pm
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That was the real fate of so many princesses. Married off like
a business transaction, no matter if the groom was gay,
disgusting, mentally ill, or just dull. Of course, maybe she
wasn't all that and a bag of chips!
The joke is funny ;D.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: Asharah
Date: August 14, 2020, 8:59 pm
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> That was the real fate of so many princesses. Married off
like a business transaction, no matter if the groom was gay,
disgusting, mentally ill, or just dull. Of course, maybe she
wasn't all that and a bag of chips!
>
> The joke is funny ;D.
>
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It's better than what happened to Princess Joan of England. She
was betrothed to a Spanish prince, but she and most of her
entourage were killed by the Black Death when they stopped at
Bordeaux.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: Lula
Date: August 15, 2020, 6:31 am
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--- Quote from: Asharah link ---
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> It's better than what happened to Princess Joan of England.
She was betrothed to a Spanish prince, but she and most of her
entourage were killed by the Black Death when they stopped at
Bordeaux.
>
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Sounds like divine mercy to me!
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: Winterlight
Date: August 15, 2020, 12:37 pm
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My dating axiom is that a guy who says he'll treat you like a
queen probably has Henry VIII as his role model.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: HenrysMom
Date: August 16, 2020, 5:55 pm
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This made me think of one of Queen Victoria’s granddaughters (or
was it a great-?) who was married off to some European prince,
was later dumped and blamed/shamed by her ex-in-laws for
everything wrong with the marriage (the husband’s failings had
nothing to do with it, oh no). Queen Victoria took her in,
saying “Let her come to me.” The poor princess then lived in
seclusion the rest of her life (at least I think that’s how it
went).
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: August 17, 2020, 12:26 pm
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--- Quote from: HenrysMom link ---
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> This made me think of one of Queen Victoria’s granddaughters
(or was it a great-?) who was married off to some European
prince, was later dumped and blamed/shamed by her ex-in-laws for
everything wrong with the marriage (the husband’s failings had
nothing to do with it, oh no). Queen Victoria took her in,
saying “Let her come to me.” The poor princess then lived in
seclusion the rest of her life (at least I think that’s how it
went).
>
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I'm not certain that was such a horrible fate. Depends how far
"seclusion" went. If it was "not being required to make official
public appearances," that's not bad. If it was "stays in her
room or wing of the building and never sees anyone but serving
staff," that's not so good.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: gramma dishes
Date: August 17, 2020, 1:40 pm
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--- Quote from: HenrysMom link ---
>
> This made me think of one of Queen Victoria’s granddaughters
(or was it a great-?) who was married off to some European
prince, was later dumped and blamed/shamed by her ex-in-laws for
everything wrong with the marriage (the husband’s failings had
nothing to do with it, oh no). Queen Victoria took her in,
saying “Let her come to me.” The poor princess then lived in
seclusion the rest of her life (at least I think that’s how it
went).
>
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I think that one was Mary Louise. Turns out the husband was
gay and they had never consummated their marriage even though
they were married several years. I think somehow the husband
was found enjoying the company of one of his manservants and the
parents immediately turned that to being because Mary Louise was
not attending properly to his 'needs'. She lived with Queen
Victoria the rest of her life, but never dated again because
even though she had grown to loathe her husband (and his parents
~ surprise! surprise!) she had taken her wedding vows seriously
and never stopped wearing her wedding band even though she was
divorced from him.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: Lilipons
Date: August 17, 2020, 3:43 pm
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We can also tell ‘Princess Obsessed’ little girls about positive
things that royal women have done. Princess Diana and Princess
Grace of Monaco come to mind. If presented properly, a Princess
with a moral conscience can be as powerful as a prince with a
sword on a white horse.
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Re: On princesses
DIR By: Aleko
Date: August 17, 2020, 5:12 pm
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You think Princess Diana is a role model for little girls? Or
indeed anyone at all ? Dear heavens.
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