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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Lilipons Date: July 31, 2020, 10:35 am
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1798.msg55376#msg55376
date=1596119578]
[quote]provide you with information about which voting places in
your area have the shortest lines or where the easiest place to
get to for runoffs[/quote]
I've never voted anywhere that I was allowed to choose my
polling place.
[/quote]
Amen. Our poling places in NYS are established by a number of
different voting districts. The only time you have an option is
if you request an absentee ballot.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Andi_3k Date: August 5, 2020, 1:55 pm
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I would find it intrusive and I have refused to answer it. I was
asked by my sister's neighbor who is on the election board at a
neighboorhood party. I tried to bean dip three times and
finally told her it was not her business. We had been in the
neighboorhood all of a week at the time and I really didn't want
to discuss it with virtual strangers.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: betty Date: August 11, 2020, 1:49 pm
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I don't think it's an intrusive question at all. Clearly, many
here do, and I'm trying to understand why.
"I'm all set" could answer the question whether you are
registered, not registered, not able to register, think voting
is important, think voting isn't important, whatever.
This is the same as I would answer if asked "Are you looking for
a new church?" That's not a question of relevance to me since I
don't attend church, but it's probably important to the person
asking. So I'd say something non-committal like, "I'm all set."
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: STiG Date: August 11, 2020, 6:53 pm
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I would find 'Are you looking for a new church?' intrusive as
well.
It's up to the new person to ask their new neighbours those
questions, IMO. 'Do you know where I register to vote in this
area?' 'What churches are nearby? I'd like to attend one in
the neighbourhood.'
In my case, I wouldn't ask. I'd have it covered.
Maybe it feels too much like someone else pushing their values
on to me? I don't know. But I do know I wouldn't like it.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Aleko Date: August 12, 2020, 3:12 am
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Personally I’d find ‘Are you looking for a new church?’ far more
intrusive. After all, not only is voting is an exercise of civic
rights that most people accept as proper and normal (even if
they personally might not bother), but the question can be
answered without giving any hint of one’s political views. But
not only is ‘are you looking for a new church?’ quite hard to
answer without either disclosing one’s religious views or
blatantly refusing to, but I can’t imagine anyone asking it
unless they wanted to recruit the newcomer to their own. Pushy.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Hanna Date: August 14, 2020, 10:56 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1798.msg55908#msg55908
date=1597219968]
Personally I’d find ‘Are you looking for a new church?’ far more
intrusive. After all, not only is voting is an exercise of civic
rights that most people accept as proper and normal (even if
they personally might not bother), but the question can be
answered without giving any hint of one’s political views. But
not only is ‘are you looking for a new church?’ quite hard to
answer without either disclosing one’s religious views or
blatantly refusing to, but I can’t imagine anyone asking it
unless they wanted to recruit the newcomer to their own. Pushy.
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I think it's easy to say "No, I am not but thank you for
asking." to that without revealing anything at all.
One can say "No" and really mean "Because I don't go to church"
or "I already have a church."
Where as "are you registered to vote?" requires me to disclose
whether I vote or not. and as much as that's a civic duty, it's
still my right to neglect it if I wish. If I said "No" she'd be
pushing me to register.
I also just think it's such a very basic adult requirement to
know how to do this, that asking me, a woman who has voted for
3+ decades if I need help figuring out how to register seems
silly.
The tone in the US is really awful right now, also and has been
for years now. I have no desire to engage in any political
conversation with strangers (or maybe even people close to me!)
and this woman definitely had a barely hidden agenda. Her
further comments and tone left me certain she thoroughly
believed we'd be voting for the same candidate or else she
wouldn't be trying to make sure we were voting.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Tea Drinker Date: August 14, 2020, 7:09 pm
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I don't think it's intrusive, but I would accept any of "yes,"
"no," and "how do I do that here?" and would be willing to help
people figure it out. Someone might be ineligible, they might
not have gotten around to it, or they might have other reasons
for not registering, and I'd have to know you a lot better
before I'd think your reason was any of my business.
It may be relevant here that I have asked people, not "are you
registered to vote?" but "would you like to register to vote?" I
occasionally volunteer with a group that helps just-naturalized
citizens register to vote. We stand near the exit from the hall
or building where the ceremony takes place, without blocking
foot traffic, and have clipboards that identify us as voter
registration volunteers. In that context, we know that the
people we're approaching haven't registered yet, because that's
not part of the naturalization ceremony, and that they were
eligible to vote. What we said was something like
"Congratulations! Would you like to register to vote today?" If
they said yes we had the paperwork handy, and if they said no we
said "thanks anyway" or told them to have a nice day.
I have also been asked "are you a registered voter?" by people
who were collecting signatures on petitions to get a person or
proposed law onto the ballot. That would feel inappropriate at a
casual social event, but I think is reasonable from behind a
card table on the sidewalk.
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: Hanna Date: August 14, 2020, 7:41 pm
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Teadrinker in that context, I think what you are doing is
wonderful!
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Re: Is this intrusive?
By: lisastitch Date: August 16, 2020, 2:05 pm
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I think so much depends upon the tone of voice and what we're
talking about. If we were talking politics, I might ask whether
they're registered since my library has often carried the forms
and I'd be happy to pick one up for them. But it would be a
casual, "Oh, you've just moved? Have you registered to vote? I
could pick up a form for you if you'd like", not a scolding,
"You've moved? Have you registered to vote yet? That needs to
be done right away!"
It has seemed, over the years, that there are a lot of questions
that other people find intrusive that I'm not sure I would.
They're "getting to know you" type questions--where are you
from, where did you grow up, what do you do, family--that
certainly can be asked in an intrusive way or in a
getting-to-know-you way. Is the question coming organically
from the discussion that we are having? or is it being dragged
in because the questioner has an ax to grind.
Sometimes they do hit an individual's sore spot, and the
questioner needs to be sensitive and back off. "What do you
do?" to someone who's just lost their job can be hard but I
don't know if that means we should never ask that question.
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