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       #Post#: 53926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma
   DIR By: AnnNottingham
       Date: July 1, 2020, 3:49 pm
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       Thanks, all!  I have an update:
       I've had other experience with this sort of thing, namely when
       my father cut across four lanes of traffic at O'Hare Airport
       :o.  He surrendered his license but still had options to get
       out.
       Another coworker, "Evette", mentioned to me that Sue wouldn't be
       in tonight.  Evette isn't management, but she was promoted to
       supervisor, so a rung above me (and Sue).  Evette and Sue are
       also closer friends than Sue and I.  So I confided in Evette
       about what had happened.  Her response was "And you were about
       to $#%^ your pants, right?"  The same had happened to Evette and
       she won't ride with Sue anymore but instead insists on driving
       when they're going someplace.
       Evette has concerns that Sue is severely depressed and grieving
       over her late husband, that she is becoming forgetful and thus
       not taking her medicine correctly or remembering to eat, and
       that she might be drinking too much :(.
       The plan is that Evette will have a "come to Jesus" talk with
       Sue and hopefully she'll agree to get help (besides addressing
       driving).  If that doesn't go well, then I don't know, but I
       think I did the right thing.  Evette knows I told her out of
       concern and friendship, not malicious gossip.
       Thanks, everyone!
       #Post#: 53940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: July 1, 2020, 9:37 pm
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       This seems like a positive update. I do hope that Evette is able
       to help Sue; it sounds like a rough time for her.
       #Post#: 53948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: July 2, 2020, 6:54 am
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       --- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
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       > This seems like a positive update. I do hope that Evette is
       able to help Sue; it sounds like a rough time for her.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Agreed. I feel sorry for Sue if she is grieving and depressed,
       but if she's a danger on the roads, she definitely shouldn't be
       driving. I hope she finds a solution - be it using Uber, or
       taking some extra driving lessons, or even taking retirement.
       #Post#: 53957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: gramma dishes
       Date: July 2, 2020, 9:20 am
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       --- Quote from: LifeOnPluto link ---
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       >
       > Agreed. I feel sorry for Sue if she is grieving and depressed,
       but if she's a danger on the roads, she definitely shouldn't be
       driving. I hope she finds a solution - be it using Uber, or
       taking some extra driving lessons, or even taking retirement.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If they take away her driver's license I suspect taking
       retirement would be the worst possible thing for her.  Then
       she'd have no way to get around and her loneliness would
       multiply.  It would probably be healthier both physically and
       mentally for her to get rid of her car altogether and with the
       savings in gas, maintenance and insurance she can afford to take
       a cab or whatever services are available in her area.
       That way she could keep her job.
       For other types of socialization with friends (or family?) she
       can hitch a ride with others and chip in a bit for gas.
       #Post#: 53981--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma
   DIR By: Hello Ducky
       Date: July 3, 2020, 2:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Dazi link ---
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       > In my personal experience, people in their mid sixties who are
       driving this badly have cataracts or some other eye issues.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I know my night-driving issues are because of cataracts, having
       been asked by the eye dr. at my last exam about symptoms.  I had
       a couple he brought up, specifically the "glare" and "halos"
       from headlights and street lights.  He said that was because of
       my cataracts; unfortunately, after the exam he said they still
       weren't to the point where surgery was recommended.  The one
       time I was hoping for a surgery, too.  He recommended yellow
       tinted sunglasses made specifically for night driving and they
       help tremendously!  Still looking forward to having the
       cataracts removed one day, though.
       #Post#: 53992--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: Hmmm
       Date: July 3, 2020, 10:49 am
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       I'm glad you felt you could bring this up to someone without it
       causing issues and that you cared enough to do so. I hope for a
       good outcome.
       #Post#: 53996--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: July 3, 2020, 12:43 pm
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       > I'm glad you felt you could bring this up to someone without
       it causing issues and that you cared enough to do so. I hope for
       a good outcome.
       --- End Quote ---
       Me too. And it strikes me that Sue is absolutely right to want
       to keep working, if she possibly can, in this environment where
       she has at least two (maybe more?) colleagues with such
       supportive, sympathetic, but realistic attitudes. May we all
       have such colleagues in our own times of trouble!
       #Post#: 54136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: mime
       Date: July 6, 2020, 8:58 am
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       From the other side of the situation: my uncle was killed in a
       car accident caused by a man (in his early 90s) who should not
       have been behind the wheel. He drove right through a stop sign
       and onto the highway, hitting multiple cars in the process.
       Multiple people were hospitalized and my uncle died there. At
       the scene, the man yelled at the injured people, and at the
       deputies, because nobody was driving him home and his car was
       ruined.
       THANK YOU for stepping up to take action where so many people
       turn a blind eye. You don't know how many lives and how much
       heartache you could be saving.
       #Post#: 54983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #10
   DIR By: AnnNottingham
       Date: July 24, 2020, 6:16 pm
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       Another update:
       Suellen's sister-in-law prevailed on her to check herself into
       the hospital.  There, her myriad physical problems can be
       addressed and she can go through a detox.  Turns out that our
       fears were right: she was doctor-shopping and taking all kinds
       of prescriptions incorrectly and sometimes with alcohol.
       Celebrities that flame out doing the same get all the news, but
       it's regular people too.  Prescription abuse is the drug abuse
       no one wants to talk about.
       No word if or when she might work again.  Her health is far more
       important.
       #Post#: 55014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The driving dilemma UPDATE #17
   DIR By: Rain
       Date: July 25, 2020, 10:12 am
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       Thanks for the update
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