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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: TootsNYC Date: April 21, 2020, 10:33 am
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       I can totally see a busybody niece deciding her older/elderly
       aunt and uncle are too senile to take care of themselves, and
       tossing stuff out.
       And that might make an aunt or uncle refer to her as "a guest"
       instead of "a relative."
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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: Pattycake Date: April 21, 2020, 10:51 am
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       I have a friend whose daughter does this to her when she visits.
       She's in the medical field (not sure what - some sort of nurse I
       think) and if she sees anything at or near, or heaven forbid
       past! the date, she will toss it! I don't know why people can't
       understand the difference between Best Before and Use By. I also
       don't know why my friend lets her daughter get away with it.
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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: Chez Miriam Date: April 21, 2020, 10:59 am
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       [quote author=Rho link=topic=1686.msg50633#msg50633
       date=1587351783]
       This reminded me that  Mom always put a month on packages she
       stored in the basement freezer.  The family joke was that we
       never knew what YEAR.  As a result I always label both month and
       year on whatever is in my freezer. I also try to keep inventory
       and put newer items behind older ones.
       [/quote]
       This is one of our "road to hell" [good intentions] items:
       periodically, I look through the freezer and write up what we
       have, but not all of the "we" cross things off when removing
       them from the freezer ::).  I label food with the date - and am
       even getting better at writing on the box what something is
       after the plan to make pumpkin bread backfired when that carton
       of orange turned out to be frozen [freshly-made] fruit just
       instead of pumpkin!  Was delicious [ginger, pineapple, mango,
       orange/apple], but not suited to making a loaf for afternoon
       tea!
       But then we just chuck stuff in/get things out without updating
       the list; we're/it's a 'work-in-progress'. :D
       With dairy, I'll try it - have just finished off an early-Jan
       expiry-dated creme-fraiche that was absolutely fine, and with
       many things I will see if there's still any flavour - if there
       isn't, that's a good enough reason to chuck - before assuming
       the date on a package is law on when an item cannot be consumed.
       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=1686.msg50702#msg50702
       date=1587484285]
       I have a friend whose daughter does this to her when she visits.
       She's in the medical field (not sure what - some sort of nurse I
       think) and if she sees anything at or near, or heaven forbid
       past! the date, she will toss it! I don't know why people can't
       understand the difference between Best Before and Use By. I also
       don't know why my friend lets her daughter get away with it.
       [/quote]
       And many of those dates are to protect manufacturers from being
       sued, rather than any kind of scientifically worked out
       definitive guidance.
       We like buying from-the-producer cheeses, and they will happily
       tell you how to age the stuff for yourself at home.  The thought
       that this dried up shred of "crottin" is not edible would be
       anathema to French cheesemakers/mongers!
       I don't know if it's true that honey is
       anti-bacterial/viral/fungal, or if there was still viable honey
       in the Egyptian tombs, but I'm prepared to believe that's true,
       because I'm still eating from a >10 year-old tub of honey my
       husband doesn't know about [the rotter ate the best part of six
       jars that he brought home from Ukraine, with me barely getting a
       look-in; Marcelle's honey is off bounds!].
       I saw an TV "magazine" programme on it, and it's was a lot of
       'this expert says one thing', 'this expert says the complete
       opposite', and 'this other person says watch out for
       meat/shellfish/eggs, and try the rest'.  Opinions do vary, but
       most food thrown away because of sell-by dates is not inedible
       at the point of throwing away was the majority opinion.
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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: jpcher Date: April 21, 2020, 11:20 am
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       Right. Sell by dates are different from expiration dates.
       #Post#: 51500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: Aleko Date: May 11, 2020, 2:08 am
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       I mentioned this thread to a friend, and she told me how a house
       guest went through her fridge looking for hummus. On opening one
       container she found it full of a nasty sour-smelling greyish
       mess, which she helpfully scraped into the compost caddy and
       washed out the jar nicely. That was years ago, but my friend
       says she can never meet that person even now without having to
       suppress the urge to growl, 'Who threw away the sourdough
       starter I inherited from my mother, you bl**dy interfering cow?'
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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: XRogue Date: May 11, 2020, 12:25 pm
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       I have a bottle of peppers with vinegar, the kind that when the
       vinegar runs out, it's refilled and keeps going, inherited from
       my mother. This is why it's labelled, to prevent such errors.
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       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: gramma dishes Date: May 11, 2020, 8:05 pm
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=1686.msg51500#msg51500
       date=1589180912]
       I mentioned this thread to a friend, and she told me how a house
       guest went through her fridge looking for hummus. On opening one
       container she found it full of a nasty sour-smelling greyish
       mess, which she helpfully scraped into the compost caddy and
       washed out the jar nicely. That was years ago, but my friend
       says she can never meet that person even now without having to
       suppress the urge to growl, 'Who threw away the sourdough
       starter I inherited from my mother, you bl**dy interfering cow?'
       [/quote]
       I certainly hope the friend did tell the eager food pitcher what
       she had done!    Where do these people come from who feel so
       free to clean out other people's refrigerators without even
       asking?   I think it would be impossible for me to ever be a
       friend to that person again.  The contents of that jar were so
       precious.
       #Post#: 51538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: TootsNYC Date: May 12, 2020, 10:04 am
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       and even if they weren't--even if it was rotting food--it's my
       stuff!
       Sure, nice to be helpful, but ye gods! Ask!
       #Post#: 51563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: lowspark Date: May 12, 2020, 1:06 pm
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       I mean, seriously, how hard is it to pick up the phone or just
       leave the item in the fridge till the person comes home and
       simply ask.
       I found this dodgy jar in the fridge, want me to throw it out?
       I don't understand taking liberties with other people's stuff no
       matter what it is.
       #Post#: 51582--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Throwing out your hosts' food supplies
       By: shadowfox79 Date: May 13, 2020, 1:34 am
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       [quote]I mean, seriously, how hard is it to pick up the phone or
       just leave the item in the fridge till the person comes home and
       simply ask.
       I found this dodgy jar in the fridge, want me to throw it out?
       I don't understand taking liberties with other people's stuff no
       matter what it is.[/quote]
       Some people just assume they know better.
       I've just been reminded of the time, as a student, when I came
       home to find my two housemates Tammy and Tracey having a
       screaming argument in the kitchen. Tammy, who had a more
       adventurous palate than Tracey, had brought home some kimchee
       from the supermarket and Tracey had unilaterally decided it was
       disgusting and thrown it away. Her primary argument was why
       couldn't Tammy just eat normal foods like everyone else.
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