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Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: frog24 Date: April 20, 2020, 5:44 pm
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I think it's time to look up your state labor laws on what's
required of you as your type of employee. Then, present it to
management in a "Surely we don't want to go against labor laws"
kind of way.
Meetings should be booked far enough in advance so all employees
can attend. You should not be on-call, checking your Discord
every few minutes to make sure you haven't missed anything.
Can you send around an email asking for meetings to be recorded
and distributed to those who aren't on the morning shifts?
I'm sorry you're going through this, but either they're
mandatory meetings for which you should be properly notified and
paid, or you don't get penalized for missing meetings you
weren't aware of. The message you received from a co-worker
about logging in on your phone is ridiculous. I'm very sorry
you're going through this.
#Post#: 50668--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: bopper Date: April 20, 2020, 5:46 pm
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Are you an hourly worker or a salaried worker?
If you are an hourly worker then you should not have discord on
nor should you be expected to check anything work related while
you are not being paid.
If you are salaried, then you should talk to people..."If you
want me to be on a meeting on Sunday, you need to...[text me/use
the calendar function/not schedule things on a Sunday/whatever
works for you]
#Post#: 50682--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: Nikko-chan Date: April 20, 2020, 11:38 pm
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[quote author=frog24 link=topic=1680.msg50667#msg50667
date=1587422676]
I think it's time to look up your state labor laws on what's
required of you as your type of employee. Then, present it to
management in a "Surely we don't want to go against labor laws"
kind of way.
Meetings should be booked far enough in advance so all employees
can attend. You should not be on-call, checking your Discord
every few minutes to make sure you haven't missed anything.
Can you send around an email asking for meetings to be recorded
and distributed to those who aren't on the morning shifts?
I'm sorry you're going through this, but either they're
mandatory meetings for which you should be properly notified and
paid, or you don't get penalized for missing meetings you
weren't aware of. The message you received from a co-worker
about logging in on your phone is ridiculous. I'm very sorry
you're going through this.
[/quote]
Oh the best part about that whole "You should stay logged in
24/7 on your phone" was from our HR guy!
[quote author=bopper link=topic=1680.msg50668#msg50668
date=1587422793]
Are you an hourly worker or a salaried worker?
If you are an hourly worker then you should not have discord on
nor should you be expected to check anything work related while
you are not being paid.
If you are salaried, then you should talk to people..."If you
want me to be on a meeting on Sunday, you need to...[text me/use
the calendar function/not schedule things on a Sunday/whatever
works for you]
[/quote]
I am hourly. Part time hourly. and other people are having
trouble with this too but no one as much as me? Like, I think
personally this is bullshit. And no one else does. My coworker
(and friend I know her irl) was at her weekend job, helping with
inventory even though the weekend job has closed its doors to
the public. And even then she was just like, whatever its fine.
But... she was attending the meeting, in the hallway on her
laptop. Like... She brought her laptop to her SECOND JOB to
attend this meeting. Like. I even suggested to them to use an
email blast for these meetings. No one wants to frickin listen.
#Post#: 50691--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: Bada Date: April 21, 2020, 9:16 am
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Do you have someone you're friendly with who works full time
who'd be willing to be the one to give you a heads up about
these meetings? Obviously staying logged on as an hourly worker
is ridiculous (way to go HR...) and if he's not willing to keep
you in the loop, then either someone else needs to or you'll
miss the calls. What are the penalties for missing these calls?
Maybe it takes missing some (and being "unavailable" when they
say there's a meeting RIGHT NOW you should join) for them to
change the system.
When I was an intern, work changed their security settings so
that to have your work email on your personal phone, you had to
give them permission to wipe your whole phone clean remotely if
they ever decided to. I sent an email to the whole team saying
that wasn't going to work for me, so I'd no longer have access
to my email off hours but that if they did need to reach me for
something time sensitive they could give me a call. That new
"wipe your phone" policy didn't last long after I sent my email.
Maybe you could do something along the same lines (needs
revision...I wouldn't send as is...):
Hi Team,
It seems like there's a new policy in place where important
meetings are being scheduled on short notice. As an hourly
worker, I'm really trying to stay up to date on when these
meetings are, but because it's not possible for me to always be
logged into Discord I'm having trouble making these meetings.
So, while I'm going to try my best to make it to every meeting I
can, I apologize in advance if I miss a meeting or two because I
didn't hear of a meeting that was planned for 90 minutes later
and discussed only via Discord.
#Post#: 50692--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: wolfie Date: April 21, 2020, 9:27 am
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you can always ask HR how to log the hours you are using to
check discord and your email so you get paid. that usually makes
them decide they can do it during work hours.
#Post#: 50708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25
By: Chez Miriam Date: April 21, 2020, 11:32 am
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[quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50642#msg50642
date=1587398088]
And yet another update: I checked religiously Friday and
Saturday on the work discord. I checked once on Sunday. Was all
for naught. Then I decided to check at 11:30 AM because I was
awake (normally I am not) and... we have a meeting today at one
PM. I talked to the person who tagged everyone, and asked him if
he would be okay emailing me for the meetings, and he was like
"Well do you have discord muted?" and I told him I wasn't signed
in because... I have a work discord and a personal discord. So
after work? I don't sign in to that discord I change it over to
my personal.
He asked me to sign into my work discord on my phone then. But
that would mean... I would be basically on call 24/7. Like.
these meetings aren't even paid. I am basically just posting now
so you all can watch this train wreck.
[/quote]
Oh, that is so sucky!
Would missing the meetings mean you might lose the job? Because
if not, I'd be all like "oh, I didn't get the invite because I
wasn't at work; shame". But I'm lucky that mostly I work for
myself, so no-one has the power to fire me! I didn't respond
well to a former boss wanting my mobile number when she could
contact me through my agency; if LargeEuroBank didn't want to
pay for my mobile, they certainly didn't need to be clogging up
my line, but I know the world has changed since then, and I
really didn't care about losing that job because my 'love' of
being screamed at on a daily basis had vanished.
#Post#: 50712--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25
By: Dazi Date: April 21, 2020, 11:50 am
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[quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1680.msg50708#msg50708
date=1587486776]
[quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50642#msg50642
date=1587398088]
And yet another update: I checked religiously Friday and
Saturday on the work discord. I checked once on Sunday. Was all
for naught. Then I decided to check at 11:30 AM because I was
awake (normally I am not) and... we have a meeting today at one
PM. I talked to the person who tagged everyone, and asked him if
he would be okay emailing me for the meetings, and he was like
"Well do you have discord muted?" and I told him I wasn't signed
in because... I have a work discord and a personal discord. So
after work? I don't sign in to that discord I change it over to
my personal.
He asked me to sign into my work discord on my phone then. But
that would mean... I would be basically on call 24/7. Like.
these meetings aren't even paid. I am basically just posting now
so you all can watch this train wreck.
[/quote]
Oh, that is so sucky!
Would missing the meetings mean you might lose the job? Because
if not, I'd be all like "oh, I didn't get the invite because I
wasn't at work; shame". But I'm lucky that mostly I work for
myself, so no-one has the power to fire me! I didn't respond
well to a former boss wanting my mobile number when she could
contact me through my agency; if LargeEuroBank didn't want to
pay for my mobile, they certainly didn't need to be clogging up
my line, but I know the world has changed since then, and I
really didn't care about losing that job because my 'love' of
being screamed at on a daily basis had vanished.
[/quote]
If you are an hourly employee, you are MOST certainly to be paid
for meetings if you are not scheduled. It's a violation of
federal labor laws not to pay non-salaried people to work off
the clock. Keep a log and highly consider reporting them. You're
entitled to back pay for the work you did do off the clock.
#Post#: 50719--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25
By: Bada Date: April 21, 2020, 12:30 pm
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[quote author=Dazi link=topic=1680.msg50712#msg50712
date=1587487815]
[quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1680.msg50708#msg50708
date=1587486776]
[quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50642#msg50642
date=1587398088]
And yet another update: I checked religiously Friday and
Saturday on the work discord. I checked once on Sunday. Was all
for naught. Then I decided to check at 11:30 AM because I was
awake (normally I am not) and... we have a meeting today at one
PM. I talked to the person who tagged everyone, and asked him if
he would be okay emailing me for the meetings, and he was like
"Well do you have discord muted?" and I told him I wasn't signed
in because... I have a work discord and a personal discord. So
after work? I don't sign in to that discord I change it over to
my personal.
He asked me to sign into my work discord on my phone then. But
that would mean... I would be basically on call 24/7. Like.
these meetings aren't even paid. I am basically just posting now
so you all can watch this train wreck.
[/quote]
Oh, that is so sucky!
Would missing the meetings mean you might lose the job? Because
if not, I'd be all like "oh, I didn't get the invite because I
wasn't at work; shame". But I'm lucky that mostly I work for
myself, so no-one has the power to fire me! I didn't respond
well to a former boss wanting my mobile number when she could
contact me through my agency; if LargeEuroBank didn't want to
pay for my mobile, they certainly didn't need to be clogging up
my line, but I know the world has changed since then, and I
really didn't care about losing that job because my 'love' of
being screamed at on a daily basis had vanished.
[/quote]
If you are an hourly employee, you are MOST certainly to be paid
for meetings if you are not scheduled. It's a violation of
federal labor laws not to pay non-salaried people to work off
the clock. Keep a log and highly consider reporting them. You're
entitled to back pay for the work you did do off the clock.
[/quote]
Yes, but tracking "logged into Discord" in 3 minute intervals is
far trickier than tracking a meeting, especially if you're paid
in quarter hour (or large) increments
#Post#: 50720--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25
By: wolfie Date: April 21, 2020, 12:40 pm
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[quote author=Bada link=topic=1680.msg50719#msg50719
date=1587490227]
[quote author=Dazi link=topic=1680.msg50712#msg50712
date=1587487815]
[quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1680.msg50708#msg50708
date=1587486776]
[quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50642#msg50642
date=1587398088]
And yet another update: I checked religiously Friday and
Saturday on the work discord. I checked once on Sunday. Was all
for naught. Then I decided to check at 11:30 AM because I was
awake (normally I am not) and... we have a meeting today at one
PM. I talked to the person who tagged everyone, and asked him if
he would be okay emailing me for the meetings, and he was like
"Well do you have discord muted?" and I told him I wasn't signed
in because... I have a work discord and a personal discord. So
after work? I don't sign in to that discord I change it over to
my personal.
He asked me to sign into my work discord on my phone then. But
that would mean... I would be basically on call 24/7. Like.
these meetings aren't even paid. I am basically just posting now
so you all can watch this train wreck.
[/quote]
Oh, that is so sucky!
Would missing the meetings mean you might lose the job? Because
if not, I'd be all like "oh, I didn't get the invite because I
wasn't at work; shame". But I'm lucky that mostly I work for
myself, so no-one has the power to fire me! I didn't respond
well to a former boss wanting my mobile number when she could
contact me through my agency; if LargeEuroBank didn't want to
pay for my mobile, they certainly didn't need to be clogging up
my line, but I know the world has changed since then, and I
really didn't care about losing that job because my 'love' of
being screamed at on a daily basis had vanished.
[/quote]
If you are an hourly employee, you are MOST certainly to be paid
for meetings if you are not scheduled. It's a violation of
federal labor laws not to pay non-salaried people to work off
the clock. Keep a log and highly consider reporting them. You're
entitled to back pay for the work you did do off the clock.
[/quote]
Yes, but tracking "logged in
to Discord" in 3 minute intervals is far trickier than tracking
a meeting, especially if you're paid in quarter hour (or large)
increments
[/quote]
Which is why you ask HR how you should log those hours because
you wouldn't want to violate federal law. Either they will come
up with a way for you to get paid and or they will change their
ways.
#Post#: 50722--------------------------------------------------
Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. Update #25 #29
By: JeanFromBNA Date: April 21, 2020, 1:45 pm
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Is this a recent phenomena that's been happening since the
pandemic, or have they always been this way?
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