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       #Post#: 50296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: Pattycake
       Date: April 14, 2020, 7:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: katiekat2009 link ---
       >
       > I read a letter in Ask A Manager that was similar. Why are you
       working for a company that laid you off? You need a guarantee in
       writing that they will hire you back. Otherwise, I wouldn't do
       work for them.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       She said "a bunch of us (not me thankfully!)". So hopefully none
       of the others that are missing the meetings are not laid off
       either because you're right, they shouldn't be working if
       they're laid off.
       #Post#: 50327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: lowspark
       Date: April 15, 2020, 9:32 am
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       I would put it something like this:
       Sorry I missed/was late to xyz meeting. I didn't get the notice
       since it was sent during my off hours. Just a heads up! Thanks!
       Then it's up to your boss to do something about it or not. And
       then, I'd start checking messages on weekends and holidays
       anyway.
       If it stops happening, then you can quit checking.
       Me? I always want to appear to be flexible and accommodating,
       not rigid and demanding. Particularly in times of stress like
       this... but really, any time.
       #Post#: 50343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: Sycorax
       Date: April 15, 2020, 11:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Nikko-chan link ---
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       > Or should i log in to work on weekends and holidays to make
       sure their aren't any missed messages?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Definitely.  Just make it a habit to check your messages daily,
       it seems like this is what your manager is expecting you to do.
       #Post#: 50359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: April 15, 2020, 1:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: lowspark link ---
       >
       > I would put it something like this:
       >
       > Sorry I missed/was late to xyz meeting. I didn't get the
       notice since it was sent during my off hours. Just a heads up!
       Thanks!
       >
       > Then it's up to your boss to do something about it or not. And
       then, I'd start checking messages on weekends and holidays
       anyway.
       > If it stops happening, then you can quit checking.
       >
       > Me? I always want to appear to be flexible and accommodating,
       not rigid and demanding. Particularly in times of stress like
       this... but really, any time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But, if OP is hourly, she has to "clock in" to check...in other
       words, she has to be paid for her time to check the e-mails and
       messages.  If DH is caught working without being on the clock,
       he could lose his job.
       #Post#: 50364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: Pattycake
       Date: April 15, 2020, 2:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pandorica link ---
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       > [quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50209#msg50209
       date=1586831638]
       > Or should i log in to work on weekends and holidays to make
       sure their aren't any missed messages?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Definitely.  Just make it a habit to check your messages daily,
       it seems like this is what your manager is expecting you to do.
       [/quote]
       No, not daily - just on work days. if you're not paid for
       weekends, you don't do any work on them, which includes reading
       email as that is something that you should be on the clock for.
       #Post#: 50368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: Dazi
       Date: April 15, 2020, 2:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pattycake link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Pandorica link=topic=1680.msg50343#msg50343
       date=1586967123]
       > [quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50209#msg50209
       date=1586831638]
       > Or should i log in to work on weekends and holidays to make
       sure their aren't any missed messages?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Definitely.  Just make it a habit to check your messages daily,
       it seems like this is what your manager is expecting you to do.
       [/quote]
       No, not daily - just on work days. if you're not paid for
       weekends, you don't do any work on them, which includes reading
       email as that is something that you should be on the clock for.
       [/quote]
       My job is the same way. I can't log into and check anything
       unless I am clocked in. It is 100% a terminable offense.
       
       #Post#: 50375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: NFPwife
       Date: April 15, 2020, 3:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pattycake link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Pandorica link=topic=1680.msg50343#msg50343
       date=1586967123]
       > [quote author=Nikko-chan link=topic=1680.msg50209#msg50209
       date=1586831638]
       > Or should i log in to work on weekends and holidays to make
       sure their aren't any missed messages?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Definitely.  Just make it a habit to check your messages daily,
       it seems like this is what your manager is expecting you to do.
       [/quote]
       No, not daily - just on work days. if you're not paid for
       weekends, you don't do any work on them, which includes reading
       email as that is something that you should be on the clock for.
       [/quote]
       Technically, and likely legally, OP should be on the clock for
       reading emails. But that doesn't seem to be the company culture
       because they're sending the emails and seem to expect OP to have
       the information.
       I think a heads-up to the employer with am email or message
       that's a "Hi Supervisor, I was a couple minutes late to the last
       informational meeting because I didn't see the notice. I just
       wanted to let you know that those of us on afternoon shift may
       not be seeing the notices in time for the meeting. Thanks!"
       #Post#: 50382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: April 15, 2020, 4:08 pm
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       but it wouldn't matter that it was a workday, not for an hourly
       worker. If you check your email at 8am, when your shift doesn't
       start until 4pm, you are working off the clock.
       And even if you're salaried (in the US, this is; "exempt"), you
       really shouldn't be working when you're not supposed to. You
       should be in a different headspace.
       And the manager needs this info, that he's sending things people
       aren't seeing. Just tell him "I almost missed that meeting
       because the info was sent after I got off and before my shift
       started again. I wasn't the only one. I thought I'd remind you
       that us late-shift people won't see things like this, and to ask
       if you can plan for more time in between the notice and the
       meeting. It would probably help everyone, but I know for sure it
       makes a big difference for me and the other late-shift people"
       Tell him. It's info he needs.
       You work for him; you owe it to him to supply that info.
       #Post#: 50385--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: April 15, 2020, 4:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: TootsNYC link ---
       >
       > Just tell him "I almost missed that meeting because the info
       was sent after I got off and before my shift started again. I
       wasn't the only one. I thought I'd remind you that us late-shift
       people won't see things like this, and to ask if you can plan
       for more time in between the notice and the meeting. It would
       probably help everyone, but I know for sure it makes a big
       difference for me and the other late-shift people"
       >
       > Tell him. It's info he needs.
       > You work for him; you owe it to him to supply that info.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree with this.  Do the other employees work beyond your
       start time?  If so, I might add:  'Would it be possible to
       schedule meetings later in the day?  Perhaps at or just before
       the start of the afternoon shift so that we aren't having to
       sign on early?
       #Post#: 50388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aaaand another meeting almost missed. 
   DIR By: Pattycake
       Date: April 15, 2020, 5:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: TootsNYC link ---
       >
       > but it wouldn't matter that it was a workday, not for an
       hourly worker. If you check your email at 8am, when your shift
       doesn't start until 4pm, you are working off the clock.
       >
       > And even if you're salaried (in the US, this is; "exempt"),
       you really shouldn't be working when you're not supposed to. You
       should be in a different headspace.
       >
       > And the manager needs this info, that he's sending things
       people aren't seeing. Just tell him "I almost missed that
       meeting because the info was sent after I got off and before my
       shift started again. I wasn't the only one. I thought I'd remind
       you that us late-shift people won't see things like this, and to
       ask if you can plan for more time in between the notice and the
       meeting. It would probably help everyone, but I know for sure it
       makes a big difference for me and the other late-shift people"
       >
       > Tell him. It's info he needs.
       > You work for him; you owe it to him to supply that info.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, that too! That's what I meant, really - you only check it
       on work days, when you're working.
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