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       Re: Masks
       By: oogyda Date: April 13, 2020, 9:53 am
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1675.msg50145#msg50145
       date=1586788380]
       I had wondered whether a casing was better than sewing the tie
       on.
       The pleats would be anchored just the same, but you wouldn't
       have to spend so much time getting the tie in just the right
       spot.
       I would think the 100% cotton would matter, as would the
       dense-ness of the weave.
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       I had wondered the same thing.  Then, I wondered about putting
       it across the top and bottom as opposed to putting it on the
       sides.  Is it going to effect how the edges lay?
       I do think using 100% cotton matters as well as the per inch
       thread count.  I have a couple of 800 thread count Egyptian
       cotton top sheets I'm eyeing.  They are left from sets where the
       fitted sheet wore out.  I could use those for family since I'd
       feel a little odd donating stuff made from used sheets no matter
       how bleachable they are.
       #Post#: 50166--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: TootsNYC Date: April 13, 2020, 11:38 am
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       You could use those sheets for the backside, so they're not
       visible. of course, that's closer to their actual skin and
       mouths.
       But I am not squeamish at all (as that EHell-era post about
       donating gently used and washed/bleached underwear indicates).
       Hospitals reuse sheets and gowns all the time.
       #Post#: 50213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: Pattycake Date: April 13, 2020, 10:25 pm
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       Re the fabric, we have been told that only new, 100% cotton
       should be used. Higher thread count, but not so high that they
       are difficult to breathe through. I would suggest trying making
       one with your high thread count fabric, and wearing it for a
       while yourself to see how it works. Regarding using recycled
       materials, I would use them only for my own family. The longer
       something made of fabric is used and washed (especially if
       bleached), the weaker and thinner the fibres become. This
       wouldn't be so much of a problem if these weren't used on the
       face - you want the best you can get to protect droplets from
       coming in or going out.
       For the filter, everything I have come across says non-woven
       materials should be used. That's not just from the Facebook
       group I am doing this through, but in other articles I have read
       on it. So an inner layer of cotton or flannel is not the best,
       but if that's all you have then it's better than nothing.
       Apparently the problem with the sewn on ties is the same whether
       they are attached at the sides or the top and bottom. They fit
       better to the sides of your face if they are in casings.
       #Post#: 50231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: Aleko Date: April 14, 2020, 9:12 am
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       [quote]I'd feel a little odd using donating stuff made from used
       sheets no matter how bleachable they are.[/quote]
       [quote]Hospitals reuse sheets and gowns all the time. [/quote]
       And for heaven's sake I sincerely hope we can assume that every
       single mask made and donated by members of the public is going
       to be rigorously sterilised before being issued. It would be
       criminally irresponsible not to. Quite apart from everyone's
       household having a different standard of hygiene, it's a
       mathematical certainty that a proportion of the makers are
       unknowingly infected with coronavirus themselves!
       #Post#: 50234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: TootsNYC Date: April 14, 2020, 9:40 am
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       but this is a very good point--I hadn't thought about it.
       [quote]The longer something made of fabric is used and washed
       (especially if bleached), the weaker and thinner the fibres
       become.  [/quote]
       I'd imagine the cloth masks will become less useful as they are
       washed.
       For home masks, what I'm reading is that you don't really
       need to bleach them; a regular laundering will destroy any virus
       on them.
       #Post#: 50261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: oogyda Date: April 14, 2020, 1:10 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1675.msg50234#msg50234
       date=1586875207]
       but this is a very good point--I hadn't thought about it.
       [quote]The longer something made of fabric is used and washed
       (especially if bleached), the weaker and thinner the fibres
       become.  [/quote]
       I'd imagine the cloth masks will become less useful as they are
       washed.
       For home masks, what I'm reading is that you don't really
       need to bleach them; a regular laundering will destroy any virus
       on them.
       [/quote]
       I think that's exactly why the ones with an opening to slide in
       a filter are probably a bit better.  The filter is disposable
       and the outer shell is washable.
       #Post#: 50262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: TootsNYC Date: April 14, 2020, 1:13 pm
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       washing them by hand will greatly prolong the thickness of the
       fiber. Letting them soak for 30 minutes in hot, soapy water is
       really all you need.
       
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       #Post#: 50280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: STiG Date: April 14, 2020, 4:36 pm
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       I've been washing mine in a zippered pillowcase, in with my
       regular 'no dryer' load.  They've survived, so far.  And those
       aren't handmade cloth masks.  I have a few of the ones like what
       you get when you go into the ER with a cough.
       I've been doing the same with my nitrile gloves.  The ones I
       have are really thick - they're more meant for really dirty
       work.  So I've been washing them, too, when I've just worn them
       shopping.  Not so much when I use them to do poop patrol in the
       yard.   ;D
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       Re: Masks
       By: Pattycake Date: April 14, 2020, 7:16 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1675.msg50262#msg50262
       date=1586888013]
       washing them by hand will greatly prolong the thickness of the
       fiber. Letting them soak for 30 minutes in hot, soapy water is
       really all you need.
       
  HTML https://www.glamour.com/story/how-to-wash-a-face-mask
       [/quote]
       I agree. And if 20 seconds of hand washing with soap kills the
       virus, then I am sure that washing in hot soapy water will do
       the trick. It is up to the recipients to ensure they wash them
       before they use them.
       Anyway, here's my first 50! Not sure how many more I will make
       as I have other things that I have to get done (not just
       sewing.) I think I got a good mix for men and women, and not all
       flowery!
       [attachimg=1]
       #Post#: 50299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Masks
       By: TootsNYC Date: April 14, 2020, 8:37 pm
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       I read that men are refusing to wear floral patterns, etc.
       So some solid-color ones might be a good contribution if someone
       had that kind of fabric.
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