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       #Post#: 48617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: Hmmm Date: March 13, 2020, 2:24 pm
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       So I would probably go with the $90 for singles, $120 for
       couples and then $155 for family of 4 and $175 for the family of
       6.
       #Post#: 48621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: mime Date: March 13, 2020, 3:22 pm
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       Thanks for all the thoughts!
       To clarify: when I said we were taking care of breakfast and
       lunch, I meant shopping, preparing, and paying.
       Most of them are big breakfast eaters and light lunch eaters,
       but there's a little of everything in the mix.
       I really appreciate the statement that I can't make people value
       things differently. I mean, I know that already, but I was still
       trying to get all of the variables to reconcile and that's
       probably a lost cause.
       The compromise suggestion of 100/singles & couples and
       $175/family was shot down by both singles and a couple now.
       What I'm thinking of doing right now is booking a cabin with 4
       bedrooms for the two families and letting the rest of the people
       figure out their own arrangements. I can send links for nearby
       VRBOs in case they find it helpful. I see one in the area that
       is  $400/night, so each of the two families would pay $200/night
       and have 2 bedrooms each. It still has a living room, kitchen,
       game room, and media room, so we'll have some nice spaces for
       the evenings.
       The rest can book their own and figure out how to split their
       costs.
       Removing some of the big eaters will make breakfast and lunch
       plans easier for me, too.
       Does that sound too much like rage-quitting, or taking my ball
       and going home? These guys are all a lot more willing to bicker
       than I am. The other family is willing to fight to the death on
       this so it's hard to judge myself here.
       #Post#: 48623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: Kimberami Date: March 13, 2020, 3:28 pm
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       [quote author=pjeans link=topic=1656.msg48621#msg48621
       date=1584130927]
       Thanks for all the thoughts!
       To clarify: when I said we were taking care of breakfast and
       lunch, I meant shopping, preparing, and paying.
       Most of them are big breakfast eaters and light lunch eaters,
       but there's a little of everything in the mix.
       I really appreciate the statement that I can't make people value
       things differently. I mean, I know that already, but I was still
       trying to get all of the variables to reconcile and that's
       probably a lost cause.
       The compromise suggestion of 100/singles & couples and
       $175/family was shot down by both singles and a couple now.
       What I'm thinking of doing right now is booking a cabin with 4
       bedrooms for the two families and letting the rest of the people
       figure out their own arrangements. I can send links for nearby
       VRBOs in case they find it helpful. I see one in the area that
       is  $400/night, so each of the two families would pay $200/night
       and have 2 bedrooms each. It still has a living room, kitchen,
       game room, and media room, so we'll have some nice spaces for
       the evenings.
       The rest can book their own and figure out how to split their
       costs.
       Removing some of the big eaters will make breakfast and lunch
       plans easier for me, too.
       Does that sound too much like rage-quitting, or taking my ball
       and going home? These guys are all a lot more willing to bicker
       than I am. The other family is willing to fight to the death on
       this so it's hard to judge myself here.
       [/quote]
       I think it is a perfect compromise.
       #Post#: 48627--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: lakey Date: March 13, 2020, 4:32 pm
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       [quote]What I'm thinking of doing right now is booking a cabin
       with 4 bedrooms for the two families and letting the rest of the
       people figure out their own arrangements. I can send links for
       nearby VRBOs in case they find it helpful. I see one in the area
       that is  $400/night, so each of the two families would pay
       $200/night and have 2 bedrooms each. It still has a living room,
       kitchen, game room, and media room, so we'll have some nice
       spaces for the evenings.
       The rest can book their own and figure out how to split their
       costs.
       Removing some of the big eaters will make breakfast and lunch
       plans easier for me, too.
       Does that sound too much like rage-quitting, or taking my ball
       and going home? These guys are all a lot more willing to bicker
       than I am. The other family is willing to fight to the death on
       this so it's hard to judge myself here.[/quote]
       This sounds much better to me. Trying to get this many families,
       couples, and singles to share one rental in a way that seems
       fair to everyone is almost impossible unless all of the people
       involved are very easy going. No matter what you would do with
       these people, someone is going to feel resentful. I also don't
       think that two of you should be taking responsibility for
       breakfast and lunch. I just think that something of this
       magnitude is unworkable. You're better off to limit it in the
       way you described in your last update.
       #Post#: 48628--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: TootsNYC Date: March 13, 2020, 4:42 pm
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       [quote]Does that sound too much like rage-quitting, or taking my
       ball and going home? These guys are all a lot more willing to
       bicker than I am. The other family is willing to fight to the
       death on this so it's hard to judge myself here.[/quote]
       I think this can sound like "We're going to stop trying to
       combine such different approaches and needs, and cut you guys
       lose to figure out how you'd like to handle it."
       #Post#: 48640--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: kidsandme Date: March 13, 2020, 7:04 pm
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       I wouldn't worry about how it sounds or looks, do what is best
       for you and your family.
       Also with the amount of work and time you are putting in, you
       should have what suits you.
       I wouldn't be cooking breakfast and lunch for people that wanted
       to pay the least money for the most convenience.
       #Post#: 48642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: lakey Date: March 13, 2020, 8:43 pm
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       [quote]I wouldn't be cooking breakfast and lunch for people that
       wanted to pay the least money for the most convenience. [/quote]
       Preparing two meals a day for fifteen people doesn't seem like
       much of a vacation to me.
       #Post#: 48651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: Aleko Date: March 14, 2020, 2:05 am
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       I wouldn't be cooking breakfast and lunch for any fifteen
       people, whether they were generous or mean, whose eating habits
       and tastes varied so much that anything I provided was likely to
       be the wrong thing or the wrong time to please a significant
       number of them.
       #Post#: 48652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: Rose Red Date: March 14, 2020, 6:25 am
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       I don't mind cooking. But not for two meals every day! I'm
       assuming you're not just planning on toast, cereal, and
       sandwiches. I'm not sure why you took it on yourself to be the
       meal planner and cook. 15 people with different habits and
       schedules is different than cooking for your own family of 6.
       If all must eat together for some reason, all the adults (and
       even teens) can take turns. Don't fall into the trap of being
       "the mom." It's your vacation too.
       Edited for spelling.
       #Post#: 48672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How to share the cost of a rental
       By: TootsNYC Date: March 14, 2020, 5:09 pm
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       I wouldn't prepare breakfast, period. People can eat cereal or
       cook their own eggs!
       I certainly wouldn't be doing it without a rota.
       Single people can cook, too.
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