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My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: NyaChan Date: March 10, 2020, 8:06 am
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A group I volunteer with takes a yearly cruise. The founder
picks which cruise they want to vacation on with her husband and
elderly parents and then sends out the info so anyone who wants
to come can book the same cruise. We usually have a group of
6-10 people core people. Unfortunately, we booked for a cruise
leaving 3/28 (last summer, no hint of the virus issue at that
point). I agreed on this occasion to take an extra roommate so
that an odd person out wouldn’t have to pay single occupancy.
We got a mini suite and since it was my other friend/roommate’s
milestone birthday, we splurged in extras.
Now the cruise line has offered a credit for those who want to
cancel. It’s a pretty good deal as normally we would have had to
pay at least 50%. Due to the danger, I would like to cancel.
But no one else in my room seems to see the danger or disruption
going on the cruise could cause. It’s not clear whether I can
receive my refund without canceling the entire booking. One of
the roommates indicated that 1) if the cruise is going to cancel
the booking, I should forgo my refund so they can go on the trip
and 2) if the booking isn’t canceled but the remaining two are
charged for double occupancy rather than triple, I should
reimburse them. I can kind of see their point that I am
potentially messing up their vacation if I cancel, but I also
feel like this generous refund policy is being offered for a
reason! It would be a lot simpler if they also were concerned
about the dangers of being stuck outside the country or in
quarantine and away from work, but it appears I’m the only one
in the whole group who isn’t taking a very optimistic attitude
to this.
What do you think would be fair? I’ll check with the travel
agent about what will happen with the money between the three of
us, but I what are my social/moral obligations in your opinion?
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: gramma dishes Date: March 10, 2020, 8:18 am
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Your 'social obligation' is to take care of yourself. I don't
know about where you are, but all of our newscasts are featuring
people from the CDC and other similar sources saying (among
other things) "DON'T TAKE ANY CRUISES IN THE NEAR FUTURE!"
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: kckgirl Date: March 10, 2020, 8:23 am
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If you can cancel your share and get a refund, and that's what
you want to do, I say go for it. You are under no obligation to
the other travelers. I get that they think you are, but
circumstances have changed dramatically, and people are being
advised to stay off of cruise ships. If you just wanted to
cancel because you decided not to go for *reasons* then my
answer would be different. Do what you feel is best for your
safety and health.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: NFPwife Date: March 10, 2020, 8:40 am
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This is a safety trumps etiquette situation. You have zero
obligation to those in the group. Cancel. Maybe your canceling
will spur them to take the appropriate action.
HTML https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/covid-19-cruise-ship
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: sandisadie Date: March 10, 2020, 9:59 am
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I agree that you should do what you think is best to protect
yourself. Many, many kinds of trips and gatherings in the U. S.
are being postponed or cancelled. Social obligations should
have nothing to do with everyone's safety. Right now we should
all be putting safety first. I also agree that you pulling out
of the cruise may spur others to do the same. This kind of
planning revision is going on in my family right now too.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: lowspark Date: March 10, 2020, 10:15 am
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I don't know if you live in the US or not, but the US State
Department has issued an advisory against traveling on cruise
ships.
Even without that, there's no way I'd go on a cruise now.
Setting aside the factor of catching the disease (which I'm not
super concerned about), the possibility of getting quarantined
on the ship indefinitely is enough to scare me off.
Cancel your trip. You are not responsible for the cost for
others because your reason for canceling is beyond your control.
You are not just changing your mind. There is a clear and
present danger that authoritative sources are warning about.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: TootsNYC Date: March 10, 2020, 11:13 am
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You don't owe them money.
I think if you cancel for any reason, you don't owe them money,
as long as there's a bit of time.
If you weren't going in the first place, they'd have to pay
double occupancy instead of triple.
In a situation in which they couldn't go if you weren't there to
split the cost, then I think they just can't go. I think it's a
risk you take in that situation.
I would never expect someone to pay money for nothing. I would
expect an apology, but people shouldn't end up wasting their
money.
It does depend a little bit on how much money.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: mime Date: March 10, 2020, 12:39 pm
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If you were cancelling because something better came along, or
you were getting paranoid about a non-substantial threat, then
I'd have a different opinion. The fact is, though, that the
State is advising against cruise ships, and many US businesses
are cancelling travel for their employees, and eating a LOT of
costs to do so. You're not some fanatic outlier here; you're
making an unfortunate but completely reasonable decision based
on unforeseeable circumstances.
If the cruise ship cancels the whole booking, talk to your
agent, or the company. They may just alter it instead, as
they're probably more motivated right now to keep whatever
portions of bookings they can, as customers are fleeing. Then
your roommates can decide for themselves if they like the
arrangement or not, and see what options they have. If the ship
just changes the rate from triple occupancy to double, then your
roommates pay their fair share-- double occupancy. To suggest
that you should subsidize their luxury is very entitled.
If I was in your shoes and needing to cancel for my piece of
mind, I'd be apologizing for what this does to their plans, and
probably sending a gift card for the ship's gift shop (or
something like that) as a token peace offering. -- but not if
they're demanding I pay for their inconvenience with such a
serious pile of cash!
I hope this works out. It must be stressful right now, and
disappointing to have to drop your cruise plans.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: Aleko Date: March 10, 2020, 1:03 pm
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[quote]If the cruise ship cancels the whole booking, talk to
your agent, or the company. They may just alter it instead, as
they're probably more motivated right now to keep whatever
portions of bookings they can, as customers are fleeing.
[/quote]
This. My feeling is that the company would be mad to risk a
whole group pulling out because one person in it took them up on
their offer of cancelling and as a result they tried to hike the
roommates' costs. If they want to (or feel they have to) run
that cruise at all, they need to keep everyone who's still keen
to go at all sweet, and they must know that.
But even if they did, I think you're neither obligated to go on
the cruise, or pay the difference.
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Re: My vacations are cursed! Canceling a shared cabin
By: NFPwife Date: March 10, 2020, 3:04 pm
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1653.msg48470#msg48470
date=1583863412]
[quote]If the cruise ship cancels the whole booking, talk to
your agent, or the company. They may just alter it instead, as
they're probably more motivated right now to keep whatever
portions of bookings they can, as customers are fleeing.
[/quote]
This. My feeling is that the company would be mad to risk a
whole group pulling out because one person in it took them up on
their offer of cancelling and as a result they tried to hike the
roommates' costs. If they want to (or feel they have to) run
that cruise at all, they need to keep everyone who's still keen
to go at all sweet, and they must know that.
But even if they did, I think you're neither obligated to go on
the cruise, or pay the difference.
[/quote]
I agree. It's completely reasonable for the roommates could
advocate for the cruise line keeping their costs the same with
the cancellation.
Either way NyaChan, shouldn't be concerned with the roommates'
costs.
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