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       #Post#: 47748--------------------------------------------------
       "It's your fault..."
       By: shadowfox79 Date: February 22, 2020, 1:24 am
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       I am a romance writer in my spare time. This was mentioned when
       I went out with friends earlier this week as I have just had a
       new short story accepted, and one of them asked me if I had got
       rid of my "stalker" yet.
       For background, a few years ago I had an article about my
       writing published in Mensa magazine (which is where I know these
       friends from). Shortly afterwards a Mensa member started sending
       me dirty emails, so I blocked him. I did mention this to my
       friends at the time but it was easily resolved so I didn't think
       much of it.
       When my friend asked me this, I said that I had blocked him.
       Another friend (who is about 20 years older than me, if that
       matters) then airily commented "Oh well, it's your own fault for
       putting provocative photos in the magazine!"
       I pointed out that the photos had not been provocative in the
       slightest. I had submitted a couple of professional headshots of
       me in a sundress and blue shrug, smiling. Hardly Playboy
       material here. She conceded the point, but reiterated that it
       was still my fault because I "looked nice" in the photos.
       Seriously? Because I have photos I look nice in, any pervert is
       allowed to send me dirty messages?
       Another friend then told me that it was probably because he was
       a Mensa member and therefore had no social skills. So my
       question is - am I supposed to give a pass to people for this
       sort of thing? I should add that my writer's email is in
       everything I have had published and no reader has ever sent me
       anything like that.
       #Post#: 47752--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: Jem Date: February 22, 2020, 4:23 am
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       Nah, even if you did publish provocative photos, unless you also
       published an invitation to contact you about non-writing matters
       it is out of line for someone to do so. Blocking him and moving
       on was the right thing to do.
       #Post#: 47753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: AliciaLynette Date: February 22, 2020, 4:43 am
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       Just here to say that this Another friend then told me that it
       was probably because he was a Mensa member and therefore had no
       social skills
       is insulting!!
       I'm a Mensa member*, as is most of my family, and the majority
       of Mensans I know would find the idea of sending dirty emails
       because you had included a couple of nice photos in an article
       utterly mindboggling!
       *Actually, technically, I'm not currently a paying member,
       because it costs too much.  But I do attend a local Mensa
       group's once-a-month meal, and while some members can go on a
       bit about their pet subjects, on the whole we're just normal
       people!
       #Post#: 47754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: shadowfox79 Date: February 22, 2020, 4:45 am
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       [quote author=AliciaLynette link=topic=1642.msg47753#msg47753
       date=1582368197]
       Just here to say that this Another friend then told me that it
       was probably because he was a Mensa member and therefore had no
       social skills
       is insulting!!
       I'm a Mensa member*, as is most of my family, and the majority
       of Mensans I know would find the idea of sending dirty emails
       because you had included a couple of nice photos in an article
       utterly mindboggling!
       *Actually, technically, I'm not currently a paying member,
       because it costs too much.  But I do attend a local Mensa
       group's once-a-month meal, and while some members can go on a
       bit about their pet subjects, on the whole we're just normal
       people!
       [/quote]
       I agree on that score - as a Mensa member I don't consider
       myself to have no social skills. It is true that a lot of the
       members I've met are introverted, but that's not the same thing
       at all.
       #Post#: 47755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: shadowfox79 Date: February 22, 2020, 4:47 am
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       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1642.msg47752#msg47752
       date=1582367007]
       Nah, even if you did publish provocative photos, unless you also
       published an invitation to contact you about non-writing matters
       it is out of line for someone to do so. Blocking him and moving
       on was the right thing to do.
       [/quote]
       He probably would have claimed it was about writing matters,
       considering some of the questions were about if I get excited
       when I write love scenes, for instance.
       #Post#: 47756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: Dazi Date: February 22, 2020, 6:34 am
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       Even if you were stark naked in those pictures, it doesn't make
       it okay for him to send you dirty messages.
       Only he is responsible for his behavior and actions, so he needs
       to learn there are consequences to said actions.
       #Post#: 47758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: Rose Red Date: February 22, 2020, 7:46 am
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       Blaming the victim with "It's the way you dress. You shouldn't
       look nice. That's just an invitation." Wow. That's as old as the
       hills and she's still brainwashed into believing it. Women have
       been fighting it since at least the 70's ( probably longer) and
       the fight still continues :(.
       Also, it's not because of social skills. I won't diagnose, but
       stalkers have issues that have nothing to do with being an
       awkward nerd.*
       * Not trying to be insulting. I'm an awkward nerd myself.
       #Post#: 47760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: jpcher Date: February 22, 2020, 9:07 am
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       [quote author=shadowfox79 link=topic=1642.msg47748#msg47748
       date=1582356251]So my question is - am I supposed to give a pass
       to people for this sort of thing? I should add that my writer's
       email is in everything I have had published and no reader has
       ever sent me anything like that.
       [/quote]
       My answer to your question is NO!
       I don't know that I would consider him a stalker because the
       messages have been stopped by you blocking him. But you know his
       name so if anything feels the least bit hinky about his behavior
       (do you know him in person?) or if you receive additional
       messages/phone calls and the like I think you should contact the
       police simply to have your complaint on record.
       #Post#: 47771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: February 22, 2020, 1:36 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1642.msg47758#msg47758
       date=1582379177]
       Blaming the victim with "It's the way you dress. You shouldn't
       look nice. That's just an invitation." Wow. That's as old as the
       hills and she's still brainwashed into believing it. Women have
       been fighting it since at least the 70's ( probably longer) and
       the fight still continues :(.
       Also, it's not because of social skills. I won't diagnose, but
       stalkers have issues that have nothing to do with being an
       awkward nerd.*
       * Not trying to be insulting. I'm an awkward nerd myself.
       [/quote]
       Totally agree with this.
       #Post#: 47772--------------------------------------------------
       Re: "It's your fault..."
       By: Luci Date: February 22, 2020, 1:49 pm
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       DH and I play a game in which we make anything we did wrong the
       other's fault with wacky excuses like this. I don’t think that
       is what is intended here, sadly.
       This is stupid. Just ignore. In other words, give him a pass
       unless you feel threatened.
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