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Rude or Just Odd
By: BeagleMommy Date: February 4, 2020, 2:05 pm
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Three weeks ago I had my lumpectomy (all clear, woo hoo!).
When the anesthesiologist came in to explain what he was going
to do and ask about the placement of my insulin pump and CGM he
was very nice and professional. However, after he finished his
explanation he started telling me how when his sister was going
through chemotherapy she was given some type of cap with dry ice
to wear and she didn't lose her hair.
I was lying there, bald as an onion, wondering why he was
telling me this. It didn't upset me but I could see how someone
who was sensitive about their hair loss might get upset. He
next launched into a long lecture about how doctor's shouldn't
prescribe a certain diabetes medication (which I wasn't using)
because it really doesn't work.
BeagleDaddy is prescribed this medication. He was just as
perplexed as I was.
Was this doctor rude or just a bit odd? I did mention that I
thought it was inappropriate in the survey the hospital sent.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: DaDancingPsych Date: February 4, 2020, 2:33 pm
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I want to say rude, but certainly insensitive. Like you said,
anyone who may be sensitive to their loss of hair may have
gotten really hurt by this. Besides, when I am having a medical
procedure done, I want it to be about me. Not you. Not your
sister. Not your dog's cousin's boyfriend. Me. Sure,
conversation may make me feel more comfortable, but I don't want
to hear what worked for your family. So either talk about my
case or talk about general topics.
I would want to hear more about the medication conversation
before I would pass judgement. But at this point, I want to
again say, talk about me!
All this strangeness aside... yippee on the all clear!!!
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: gramma dishes Date: February 4, 2020, 3:27 pm
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??? :-\ :o
The anesthesiologist should NOT be contradicting what your own
and Beagle Daddy's doctors are using to treat you! I would not
call it rude. I would call it inappropriate and unprofessional.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: GardenGal Date: February 4, 2020, 5:30 pm
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So glad your procedure went well, despite this insensitive guy.
[quote]Not your dog's cousin's boyfriend. [/quote] -- I'm trying
to picture what kind of surgery this would involve, and all I
can come up with is neutering. So I sure wouldn't hear about
that before any surgery I might need.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: February 4, 2020, 6:14 pm
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[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1619.msg46678#msg46678
date=1580851677]
??? :-\ :o
The anesthesiologist should NOT be contradicting what your own
and Beagle Daddy's doctors are using to treat you! I would not
call it rude. I would call it inappropriate and unprofessional.
[/quote]
This is exactly what I was going to say. Very inappropriate and
extremely unprofessional.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: Luci Date: February 4, 2020, 7:23 pm
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[quote author=pierrotlunaire0 link=topic=1619.msg46691#msg46691
date=1580861694]
[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1619.msg46678#msg46678
date=1580851677]
??? :-\ :o
The anesthesiologist should NOT be contradicting what your own
and Beagle Daddy's doctors are using to treat you! I would not
call it rude. I would call it inappropriate and unprofessional.
[/quote]
This is exactly what I was going to say. Very inappropriate and
extremely unprofessional.
[/quote]
I’m with this group.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: NFPwife Date: February 4, 2020, 8:03 pm
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[quote author=Luci link=topic=1619.msg46700#msg46700
date=1580865825]
[quote author=pierrotlunaire0 link=topic=1619.msg46691#msg46691
date=1580861694]
[quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1619.msg46678#msg46678
date=1580851677]
??? :-\ :o
The anesthesiologist should NOT be contradicting what your own
and Beagle Daddy's doctors are using to treat you! I would not
call it rude. I would call it inappropriate and unprofessional.
[/quote]
This is exactly what I was going to say. Very inappropriate and
extremely unprofessional.
[/quote]
I’m with this group.
[/quote]
Adding my voice to the chorus. Very inappropriate. I'm glad you
put it in your survey.
I was on a med and got a nosebleed. A bad one. I've never had
one in my life, even when being hit in the nose. I looked up
what to do and also the causes. I called my doc's on-call, a doc
in the practice who is very abrasive was on-call, he said, "I
get nosebleeds all the time," in a really dismissive way. I
replied, "I didn't call to talk about your nosebleeds, I called
to talk about mine." I asked if the med could have contributed
to it. Again, dismissive, and I just ended the call.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: Dazi Date: February 4, 2020, 9:19 pm
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One, I've only heard of icecaps being successful for radiation
only patients. Chemo induced alopecia just is and I don't know
of anything that can stop that.
Second, he was unprofessional and was not using good therapeutic
communication with you. There is an art to communicating with
your patients and their families and this guy didn't have it.
I'm sorry you had that experience. I'm happy though that your
test was negative! That's the important thing in the long run.
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: Aleko Date: February 5, 2020, 1:50 am
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What on earth was he thinking of? ??? ::) ??? It was not only
monumentally insensitive to suggest (whether accurately or not)
that you lost your hair unnecessarily because the hospital
failed to take a simple protective measure; it also obviously
created the possibility of one of his colleagues shortly coming
round steaming with fury saying 'One of my patients is suing me
for negligence because you told her an ice cap would have saved
her hair!' Dissing other doctors' and other hospitals' treatment
methods is a temptation, I get that, but dissing one's own
colleagues' methods is potential professional Darwinism.
And even dissing the methods of safely-distant doctors is
unhelpful for the patient. I remember once when my father had
injured his knee climbing in the Alps; he was operated on in a
Swiss hospital and given details of the procedures they had
carried out to take home and show to his local hospital when he
went for follow-up. The British doctor looked at this, sniffed
and said 'Oh. What an antiquated procedure. We haven't done
things that way here for years.' My dad was pretty peeved. For
one, he didn't believe it: Swiss doctors are no slouches and if
there's one thing they do know about it's mountaineering
injuries. For another: even if it were true, how does it help to
be told you've been given a substandard treatment?
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Re: Rude or Just Odd
By: Dazi Date: February 5, 2020, 4:11 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=1619.msg46712#msg46712
date=1580889013]
What on earth was he thinking of? ??? ::) ??? It was not only
monumentally insensitive to suggest (whether accurately or not)
that you lost your hair unnecessarily because the hospital
failed to take a simple protective measure; it also obviously
created the possibility of one of his colleagues shortly coming
round steaming with fury saying 'One of my patients is suing me
for negligence because you told her an ice cap would have saved
her hair!' Dissing other doctors' and other hospitals' treatment
methods is a temptation, I get that, but dissing one's own
colleagues' methods is potential professional Darwinism.
And even dissing the methods of safely-distant doctors is
unhelpful for the patient. I remember once when my father had
injured his knee climbing in the Alps; he was operated on in a
Swiss hospital and given details of the procedures they had
carried out to take home and show to his local hospital when he
went for follow-up. The British doctor looked at this, sniffed
and said 'Oh. What an antiquated procedure. We haven't done
things that way here for years.' My dad was pretty peeved. For
one, he didn't believe it: Swiss doctors are no slouches and if
there's one thing they do know about it's mountaineering
injuries. For another: even if it were true, how does it help to
be told you've been given a substandard treatment?
[/quote]
RIGHT?! Also, just because a doctor chooses a particular method
that another wouldn't have, doesn't make it wrong. A good
example are hip replacements. The anterior approach is a newer
procedure with less complications and much faster recovery time.
However, most older doctors use the posterior approach because
that is how they were trained and sometimes the condition of the
patient makes it necessary to do the old school way. It's not
wrong at all, just what the surgeon is comfortable doing and
what's best for that patient. Younger doctors just finishing med
school are doing the new procedure more though, since that was
the one they are taught first now (I'm not sure that this is
true in all places, just an example of different doesn't mean
wrong).
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