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       #Post#: 45942--------------------------------------------------
       How rude!
       By: Songbird Date: January 21, 2020, 2:16 pm
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       I'm still aggravated.
       We went out to dinner Saturday night.  Lovely restaurant.   We
       had a great time.  But...
       The restaurant is on the ground floor, but the restrooms are on
       the second floor, accessible only by climbing a narrow
       staircase.  There is a handicapped accessible restroom on he
       first floor, a single room with toilet and sink.  The accessible
       restroom is located near the lobby of the restaurant.
       I have arthritis in both knees; stairs are not my friend.
       I wanted to use the restroom just before we left the restaurant.
       When I walked over to the restroom, the door was open.
       Inside, a young woman was standing by the sink.  She had a
       curling iron in her hands, and she was fixing her hair!  Her two
       very young children were running in and out of the restroom.
       When she saw me standing and waiting, she closed the door.
       I briefly thought about summoning the restaurant manager/owner,
       but instead, I opted to use the restrooms upstairs.
       Though now I am wondering if I should have said something to the
       owner after all.
       #Post#: 45943--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: NFPwife Date: January 21, 2020, 2:24 pm
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       I think this set-up is an argument for making the restroom
       "handicap reserved," and I think you should have talked to
       management. I'm not sure what they could have done in the
       moment, but, for the future, they should definitely put up
       signage to direct everyone without a physical limitation
       upstairs. (I noticed that my home airport has designated the
       handicap stalls as reserved and asked that they are not used
       unless every other stall is full.)
       In the moment, I would have knocked and asked how much longer
       she'd be because I can't do the stairs. And, I would have likely
       stood by the door and waited for her just to give her a
       disapproving look when she exited. (As long as my bladder agreed
       to the plan. :D )
       #Post#: 45944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: TootsNYC Date: January 21, 2020, 2:28 pm
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       Nobody should be curling their hair in the restroom of a
       restaurant!
       And yes, you should have asked the manager.
       It would have been OK to me for her to be using that restroom
       for its intended purpose (going to the bathroom); the OP can
       wait for one person to be done. But nobody should be doing that
       sort of work there.
       As the manager, in the moment I would have knocked on the door
       and said, "Ma'am, may I speak with you?" And then said, "Our
       restrooms are not for personal grooming. Please leave."
       #Post#: 46042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: Songbird Date: January 23, 2020, 10:41 am
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       I'm wondering now, what would the owner have said?
       #Post#: 46046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: Kimberami Date: January 23, 2020, 11:48 am
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       Maybe it was the owner. I'm trying to think of why a patron
       would have a curling iron with them at dinner.
       #Post#: 46053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: Hmmm Date: January 23, 2020, 1:05 pm
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       Would it have been appropriate for the OP to knock and ask "How
       much longer will you be? I'm unable to use the facilities
       upstairs."
       I also wonder if it was an employee of the restaurant. Who does
       their hair at a restaurant?
       #Post#: 46055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: Rose Red Date: January 23, 2020, 1:35 pm
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       I also thought it might be an employee but her two children were
       running around so I don't know. Unless the restaurant is very
       casual and allows it?
       But I would have spoken to the manager or owner, especially if
       it turns out to be an employee. It's one thing if someone is
       taking a long time because they need to (we've all been there
       :P) but curling hair in the only handicapped stall is not a
       need.
       #Post#: 46105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: NFPwife Date: January 24, 2020, 12:25 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1598.msg46055#msg46055
       date=1579808141]
       I also thought it might be an employee but her two children were
       running around so I don't know. Unless the restaurant is very
       casual and allows it?
       But I would have spoken to the manager or owner, especially if
       it turns out to be an employee. It's one thing if someone is
       taking a long time because they need to (we've all been there
       :P) but curling hair in the only handicapped stall is not a
       need.
       [/quote]
       I didn't automatically think it was an employee because I've
       been known to travel with a curling or flat iron in my purse.
       ;D Sometimes the days are long and I've had several back to back
       "things" and need a refresh. (This was especially true when my
       hair was long. Now that it's short, not so much.) I've been
       known to plug in and primp in a public restroom, but... not in a
       stall and not in a single set up bathroom.
       Employee or customer, it's rude. You can't tie up a restroom,
       especially the handicap available one for primping.
       #Post#: 46124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: jpcher Date: January 24, 2020, 4:24 pm
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       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=1598.msg46105#msg46105
       date=1579890313]
       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1598.msg46055#msg46055
       date=1579808141]
       I also thought it might be an employee but her two children were
       running around so I don't know. Unless the restaurant is very
       casual and allows it?
       But I would have spoken to the manager or owner, especially if
       it turns out to be an employee. It's one thing if someone is
       taking a long time because they need to (we've all been there
       :P) but curling hair in the only handicapped stall is not a
       need.
       [/quote]
       I didn't automatically think it was an employee because I've
       been known to travel with a curling or flat iron in my purse.
       ;D Sometimes the days are long and I've had several back to back
       "things" and need a refresh. (This was especially true when my
       hair was long. Now that it's short, not so much.) I've been
       known to plug in and primp in a public restroom, but... not in a
       stall and not in a single set up bathroom.
       Employee or customer, it's rude. You can't tie up a restroom,
       especially the handicap available one for primping.
       [/quote]
       I completely agree with the bold above.
       #Post#: 46125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How rude!
       By: Rose Red Date: January 24, 2020, 4:54 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=1598.msg46124#msg46124
       date=1579904666]
       [quote author=PVZFan link=topic=1598.msg46105#msg46105
       date=1579890313]
       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1598.msg46055#msg46055
       date=1579808141]
       I also thought it might be an employee but her two children were
       running around so I don't know. Unless the restaurant is very
       casual and allows it?
       But I would have spoken to the manager or owner, especially if
       it turns out to be an employee. It's one thing if someone is
       taking a long time because they need to (we've all been there
       :P) but curling hair in the only handicapped stall is not a
       need.
       [/quote]
       I didn't automatically think it was an employee because I've
       been known to travel with a curling or flat iron in my purse.
       ;D Sometimes the days are long and I've had several back to back
       "things" and need a refresh. (This was especially true when my
       hair was long. Now that it's short, not so much.) I've been
       known to plug in and primp in a public restroom, but... not in a
       stall and not in a single set up bathroom.
       Employee or customer, it's rude. You can't tie up a restroom,
       especially the handicap available one for primping.
       [/quote]
       I completely agree with the bold above.
       [/quote]
       Yup. I have no problem with primping in a bathroom with many
       stalls. Maybe they have a job interview or on a date and doing
       last minute prep. But not in a one room handicapped bathroom.
       And if they were primping in there, they should have stopped and
       let a patron go in like what happened to the OP. Closing the
       door in her face was doubly rude.
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