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       #Post#: 44787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: January 3, 2020, 10:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: GardenGal link ---
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       > [quote author=Hanna link=topic=1470.msg44648#msg44648
       date=1578056170]
       > More awake now and just went with a direct approach via text,
       asking if there was another way she could control the dogs at
       night because the sounds were coming straight into my window.
       Both mom and daughter are a bit hard of hearing so I’m sure she
       has no idea it was carrying like that.
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       What was her response?  I like what others have said about how
       frightening it is to be woken up in the middle of the night by
       yelling from next door.  Good luck!
       [/quote]
       Her response was so nice. She said she was sorry and would not
       be so loud.
       Her yelling doesn’t frighten me, it’s just annoying. It’s become
       such a familiar sound that I don’t find it startling. But once I
       wake up I have trouble getting back to sleep.
       Re: suggestion I ask if everything is ok: I actually did that
       recently when her Mom had been outside yelling at the dogs in
       the middle of the night. I think my message was more subtle than
       intended because she just answered and didn’t realize I’d been
       woken up by it.
       #Post#: 44798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Hello Ducky
       Date: January 4, 2020, 3:31 am
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       It sounds like the dogs go in and out of the house or else are
       outside most of the time.  Being prey-driven coupled with
       feeding the feral cats is a disaster waiting to happen.  A guy I
       worked with was recently bragging about his hunting dog catching
       and eating his neighbor's cat.  >:( :'(
       #Post#: 44807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: jpcher
       Date: January 4, 2020, 9:14 am
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       I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the owners
       don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       #Post#: 44810--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: January 4, 2020, 11:22 am
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       No, certain dogs are more likely to go after small animals.
       Huskies, for instance. One is a shepherd mix and the other a
       boxer. But her dogs are old and slow and the cats are of genius
       stock. She said they never get near them but just annoy them.
       There isn’t a pet door or any way for the dogs to get out
       without her letting them.
       They did have a bit of a disaster when then dogs took off once
       and ended up tripping her.
       The cats she’s feeding all come from one Mother. The mother
       basically adopted my neighbor about a year ago. Despite that,
       it’s been impossible to catch her. She released herself from a
       trap once even. So eventually disaster struck and she had
       kittens. The kittens are all fixed now though.
       #Post#: 44812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Dazi
       Date: January 4, 2020, 11:48 am
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       --- Quote from: jpcher link ---
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       > I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the
       owners don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A prey driven dog is just one that has been bred to actively
       hunt game. It's just instinctual in some breeds. A good example
       are terriers. They will go after any small rodents, rats,
       squirrels, etc because that's what they were used for centuries.
       Pretty much any type of "hunting" dog is prey driven. You need
       to train them from day one not to go after stuff that moves.
       #Post#: 44813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Sycorax
       Date: January 4, 2020, 12:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: jpcher link ---
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       > I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the
       owners don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Some dogs have a high drive to chase (and possibly kill) prey. I
       have a friend with a terrier who has killed a neighbor's
       chickens
       #Post#: 44974--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Twik
       Date: January 6, 2020, 1:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dazi link ---
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       > [quote author=jpcher link=topic=1470.msg44807#msg44807
       date=1578150844]
       > I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the
       owners don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A prey driven dog is just one that has been bred to actively
       hunt game. It's just instinctual in some breeds. A good example
       are terriers. They will go after any small rodents, rats,
       squirrels, etc because that's what they were used for centuries.
       Pretty much any type of "hunting" dog is prey driven. You need
       to train them from day one not to go after stuff that moves.
       [/quote]
       We had a cairn terrier who was, well, a terror if he got fixated
       on some small animal. Once it was a toad - he'd keep chasing it
       as it tried to escape, grabbing it in his mouth, spitting it out
       when he tasted it, and frothing at the mouth - but still
       grabbing it again. We had to stick him in the car for fear he'd
       make himself sick.
       Not to mention the time he tried to take on a bull buffalo, and
       would *not* be dissuaded.
       #Post#: 44985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Victoria
       Date: January 6, 2020, 3:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pandorica link ---
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       > [quote author=jpcher link=topic=1470.msg44807#msg44807
       date=1578150844]
       > I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the
       owners don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Some dogs have a high drive to chase (and possibly kill) prey. I
       have a friend with a terrier who has killed a neighbor's
       chickens
       [/quote]
       Our neighbor's chickens crossed the Jordan in the same way. My
       father came back from helping the neighbor clean up after the
       discovery and all he had to say was, "That scene was directed by
       Quentin Tarantino."
       #Post#: 45056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Hmmm
       Date: January 7, 2020, 12:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pandorica link ---
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       > [quote author=jpcher link=topic=1470.msg44807#msg44807
       date=1578150844]
       > I've never heard of prey-driven dogs. Does that mean the
       owners don't feed them and the dogs need to find their own food?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Some dogs have a high drive to chase (and possibly kill) prey. I
       have a friend with a terrier who has killed a neighbor's
       chickens
       [/quote]
       I had never heard the term "prey-driven" though I innately
       understood what it meant because in my experience all dogs are
       prey-driven. The post prompted me to do a search on breads with
       strong prey drive. Every dog breed I've ever had was high on the
       prey-driven scale so that explains why I felt all dogs were.  ;D
       #Post#: 45065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Help with a message to neighbor
   DIR By: Soop
       Date: January 7, 2020, 3:03 pm
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       My dad tells a story about his aunt's beagle that got on the
       scent of something (they didn't know what because it was long
       gone, but it's scent lingered). Beagle ran off following the
       invisible trail. The prey must have run in a circle at some
       point before running off again, because the dog ran around and
       around the circle obsessively and couldn't find the direction
       the prey had run. No amount of calling would get her attention.
       They had to physically lift her away from the scent to get her
       to pay attention.
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