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       #Post#: 43797--------------------------------------------------
       Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 15, 2019, 4:49 pm
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       I am rewatching "The Bachelor", specifically Jason and Molly's
       wedding. To say that it rained on their wedding day is an
       understatement; it stormed. Everything was soaked. Huge plants
       blew over. Glass vases broke. I guess you have figured out that
       the ceremony took place outdoors. In true reality show fashion,
       the skies did clear for the actual ceremony, but there was
       definitely footage of the planners covering seats in plastic and
       wedding guests walking under umbrellas. There was also a shoot
       of the wedding planner saying something about how she would have
       had a plan B, but that there wasn't one. I don't know why, but I
       would guess the producers wanted the rain drama.
       It's a TV show, so we know that things are not always what they
       seem. But this got me thinking. I find it rather rude to the
       guests to ask them to sit on seats that were earlier covered in
       wet plastic, to sit and walk around in their fancy clothes with
       umbrellas, and to be in threat of flying plants. Am I wrong? Is
       forcing an outdoor wedding (no matter what) solely a decision of
       what the happy couple want or should their guests be taken into
       consideration?
       #Post#: 43799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: violinp Date: December 15, 2019, 5:10 pm
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       As a bride who had a *bunch* of rain on my wedding day -
       seriously, I was half - drenched after the outdoor photos, and
       it was 42 degrees in October! - I don't think outdoor weddings
       are rude by themselves...but making guests walk around getting
       cold and damp is probably rude. I am grateful we had a nice warm
       church for the ceremony, and a lovely reception hall for the
       latter portion of the day, but those outside photos...brrr.
       I'm sure the rain drama was manufactured for the show to some
       extent. They have to make the show compelling to watch, so if
       that means they get a near - disaster, then great for their
       ratings.
       #Post#: 43800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: December 15, 2019, 5:16 pm
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       [quote author=violinp link=topic=1443.msg43799#msg43799
       date=1576451420]
       As a bride who had a *bunch* of rain on my wedding day -
       seriously, I was half - drenched after the outdoor photos, and
       it was 42 degrees in October! - I don't think outdoor weddings
       are rude by themselves...but making guests walk around getting
       cold and damp is probably rude. I am grateful we had a nice warm
       church for the ceremony, and a lovely reception hall for the
       latter portion of the day, but those outside photos...brrr.
       I'm sure the rain drama was manufactured for the show to some
       extent. They have to make the show compelling to watch, so if
       that means they get a near - disaster, then great for their
       ratings.
       [/quote]
       I am totally fine if the bride and groom want outdoor photos in
       the rain or cold. And certainly the guests may have to be
       outdoors in sketchy weather to travel to and from the venues. My
       thoughts were on forcing an outdoor ceremony on a day that no
       one wants to be outdoors.
       But I totally agree that the rain drama was manufactured!
       Also, I think October is a beautiful month for a wedding!!!
       #Post#: 43801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: violinp Date: December 15, 2019, 5:23 pm
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1443.msg43800#msg43800
       date=1576451761]
       [quote author=violinp link=topic=1443.msg43799#msg43799
       date=1576451420]
       As a bride who had a *bunch* of rain on my wedding day -
       seriously, I was half - drenched after the outdoor photos, and
       it was 42 degrees in October! - I don't think outdoor weddings
       are rude by themselves...but making guests walk around getting
       cold and damp is probably rude. I am grateful we had a nice warm
       church for the ceremony, and a lovely reception hall for the
       latter portion of the day, but those outside photos...brrr.
       I'm sure the rain drama was manufactured for the show to some
       extent. They have to make the show compelling to watch, so if
       that means they get a near - disaster, then great for their
       ratings.
       [/quote]
       I am totally fine if the bride and groom want outdoor photos in
       the rain or cold. And certainly the guests may have to be
       outdoors in sketchy weather to travel to and from the venues. My
       thoughts were on forcing an outdoor ceremony on a day that no
       one wants to be outdoors.
       But I totally agree that the rain drama was manufactured!
       Also, I think October is a beautiful month for a wedding!!!
       [/quote]
       I meant walking around for the ceremony/trying to find seats.
       Sorry if that sounded confusing! I was just thinking of how if
       we did this knowing it was going to be miserable, how much worse
       would it be to do that to our guests, especially the elderly
       ones.
       #Post#: 43805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: Hmmm Date: December 15, 2019, 7:30 pm
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       I think most of the time, guests are aware if a wedding will be
       held outdoors and should have some responsibility for dressing
       for the climate. However, I do agree that there should be
       contingency for bad weather. I've been a guest 3 times were
       weather was an issue.
       The first was at a venue where the ceremony was to be outside in
       a garden and the reception indoors. The venue did not have an
       indoor space for the reception. So the timing was changed to
       have the cocktail hour first, then the rain let up and the
       ceremony commenced. They tried to get al the guests to go
       outside but most stayed inside and watched from the windows
       instead of braving the dampness and puddles. The wedding party
       was covered under a gazebo.
       The second one the bride and groom were again having the
       ceremony outside but the cocktail hour was to be on a roof top
       deck. They went ahead with the ceremony outdoors. It wasn't
       raining, but extremely windy and damp. The site moved the
       cocktail reception inside but to a room that wasn't large enough
       to really accommodate everyone. I think in that instance some of
       us would have rather braved the wind instead of being squished.
       The last one was again an outdoor service but indoor reception.
       The day was beautiful and the ceremony was a sunset service. But
       as soon as the sun set, the temp dropped about 20 degrees. The
       cocktail hour was held outside and most of the women were
       huddling around the outdoor heaters to stay warm, me included. I
       think in that situation, we should have thought to bring wraps
       or jackets.
       #Post#: 43811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: accountingisfun Date: December 16, 2019, 8:23 am
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       I had an outdoor wedding. It was SO lovely. I had a plan B put
       into place though - I had a backup indoor location available
       since I couldn't be sure of the weather, plus I had a giant tent
       so if some weather suddenly came up, it would be fine.
       My Aunt had her wedding at the same location I had mine at and
       she did have to move to the plan B location due to weather, so I
       knew I needed a plan B. My cousin also got married at the same
       location and had a plan B as well. We just didn't want to have
       the guests be uncomfortable.
       #Post#: 43820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: NFPwife Date: December 16, 2019, 9:31 am
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       I think there's something about weddings that shifts people from
       "I'm hosting these guests" to "It's MY day!" I've been in
       situations at weddings that I firmly believe the HC wouldn't do
       in any other circumstance. From extremely hot outdoor weddings
       with zero shade. Weddings with spitting drizzle or cocktail
       hours where there were not enough seats for every guest. (We
       were at one with seats for less than 25% of the guests and it
       was a 90 minute cocktail hour. People drifted out of the area
       into other spaces in the hotel to get some relief from the
       standing.)
       I think it's all rude honestly.
       #Post#: 43839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: Gellchom Date: December 16, 2019, 1:56 pm
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       I think a Plan B is important for an outdoor wedding (or any
       outdoor party).  Even if the weather turns out fine, you will
       save yourself some sleepless nights in advance.
       I wrote about this once before, I believe, on the old site.  My
       cousin had a smallish (60 people or so?) wedding at a
       restaurant, with the ceremony in the courtyard and the reception
       indoors.  During the ceremony, a few raindrops began to fall.
       Everyone pretended not to notice.  But then it started to rain
       for real -- not a storm, but a definite drizzle.  Eventually,
       the rabbi paused and asked if he should continue, wait, move
       inside, or what.  The bride and groom fortunately have great
       senses of humor and just shrugged it off.  So all the guests
       followed their lead and smiled and nodded that it was fine with
       us, too (I suspect that the cellist, though, was NOT thrilled!).
       I think my son, then a teen, called out, "Rock on!"  A few of
       the guests grabbed some white tablecloths and stood underneath
       them for the last few minutes of the ceremony, which occasioned
       some joking about how we've all seen someone wear white to
       someone else's wedding, but we'd never seen anyone with the
       chutzpah to erect their own chuppa (wedding canopy).
       The moral of that story is that everything turned on the bride
       and groom's relaxed reaction and who-cares attitude.  Had they
       been upset about everything not being P-E-R-F-E-C-T, it would
       have spoiled the happy vibe.  Instead, they made it even more
       fun and memorable.  The ice was all broken, everyone was talking
       to everyone else and laughing on the way into the reception.
       So a Plan B is important, I think, but even with a Plan B, some
       things just always don't go according to plan, and it's really
       important that the couple (and hosts, if different) keep a happy
       attitude no matter what, because the guests will take their cue
       from them.
       #Post#: 43840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: Rose Red Date: December 16, 2019, 2:04 pm
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       I think a plan B is important for guests who are elderly,
       disabled, or have health issues. Even if the plan B is only
       having a room they can duck into.
       A little rain won't bother me if an umbrella is sufficient. But
       I would be very upset if the weather causes the plants and
       furniture to fly, and you can't even see or hear anything
       because you're getting battered by the wind and rain.
       #Post#: 43845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wedding Day Rain Plans
       By: GardenGal Date: December 16, 2019, 2:12 pm
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       Eleven years ago DS married sweet DIL in an outdoor afternoon
       wedding in late May at a botanic garden.  We chose the date
       almost a year in advance to be one in which it had NEVER rained
       here in So. California (in this area our rainfall is about 99%
       between November and mid-April).  You guessed it - rained the
       day before as were were holding the late afternoon outdoor
       wedding rehearsal at our house (fortunately, we could do that
       under cover, and the rain held off until the rehearsal was about
       80% done).  First thing the next morning DH called a rental
       place and got them to set up a tent that morning just in case it
       rained in the afternoon (which it did not).  The rain held off,
       there was a wooden dance floor (previously arranged for), and
       the extra cost for the tent (which was a lot, since it was very
       last minute) was well worth it for our peace of mind.
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