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       #Post#: 43643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: December 12, 2019, 10:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Dazi link ---
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       > [quote author=Hanna link=topic=1431.msg43566#msg43566
       date=1576061995]
       > [quote author=Winterlight link=topic=1431.msg43560#msg43560
       date=1576041529]
       > Here's a link
  HTML https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/difference-double-breasted-suit-jacket-single-breasted-suit-jackets/<br
       />with double and single breasted jackets. As you can see, the
       entire front of the jacket is different. Pockets wouldn't fit in
       the same place, especially if you're cutting it down from a
       coat. Depending on whether she wants a short or long jacket,
       pockets might not even be possible, moved or not. The lapel
       won't look like it does now, and she wants to keep that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Can cut in pockets be “moved”? Wouldn’t you have a big seam
       where the pockets previously existed?
       [/quote]
       Sometimes, but it'd be a nightmare of a job. My mom does
       seamstress work on the side and can construct garments from
       scratch with no pattern, but I'm telling y'all she'd laugh
       herself silly at the request and tell the person to buy a new
       coat. She's done some pretty insane cosplay ensembles for
       people, so she's got the skills.
       [/quote]
       My point was if fabric is cut you cannot exactly uncut it. The
       seams from the pockets are always going to be there. Some
       seamstresses might be able to work magic and cover them up or
       else make those seams almost invisible, but it’s pretty
       unlikely.
       #Post#: 43647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: bopper
       Date: December 12, 2019, 10:43 am
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       'I would only take on a project I feel  100% confident I could
       do a good job for you. I do not have the skills for this, and
       would not want to leave you with a pile of cut up fabric. "
       #Post#: 43648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: December 12, 2019, 10:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Soop link ---
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       > [quote author=DCGirl link=topic=1431.msg43616#msg43616
       date=1576102560]
       > I showed the description of the work your customer wants done
       to my sister, who runs an alteration shop and does do custom
       work (she does a lot of work for re-enactors, for example, and
       she's made a few wedding dresses), and she said she would turn
       down the work for the reasons VorFemme cited.  She did say that
       she once took apart a very nice kilt that no longer fit and was
       able to make another garment from it (another style of skirt),
       but there are yards of fabric in a kilt to work with.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I learned about how much fabric there is in a kilt watching the
       Great British Sewing Bee. All those pleats! This whole
       conversation has also made me think of that show, because the
       first challenge of each episode was to convert an existing
       garment into something completely different. As you can imagine,
       some were more successful than others. If you like sewing,
       highly recommend checking the show out online (same producers as
       the Bake Off).
       [/quote]
       One way a person could deal with the cut-outs is to piece or
       quilt them together.
       A friend of mine made a kilt; it is amazing how much fabric it
       takes!
       #Post#: 43674--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: December 13, 2019, 4:13 am
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       > I showed the description of the work your customer wants done
       to my sister, who runs an alteration shop and does do custom
       work (she does a lot of work for re-enactors, for example, and
       she's made a few wedding dresses), and she said she would turn
       down the work for the reasons VorFemme cited.  She did say that
       she once took apart a very nice kilt that no longer fit and was
       able to make another garment from it (another style of skirt),
       but there are yards of fabric in a kilt to work with.
       --- End Quote ---
       Plus the fact that a kilt is - apart from the waistband where
       excess material in the pleats is normally trimmed off to make it
       less bulky - basically just a very long rectangle. If you can
       manage to steam and press the pleats  out, it's no different
       from starting with a new length of cloth.
       #Post#: 43675--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: Soop
       Date: December 13, 2019, 7:04 am
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       --- Quote from: Kimpossible link ---
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       > [quote author=Soop link=topic=1431.msg43632#msg43632
       date=1576158154]
       > [quote author=DCGirl link=topic=1431.msg43616#msg43616
       date=1576102560]
       > I showed the description of the work your customer wants done
       to my sister, who runs an alteration shop and does do custom
       work (she does a lot of work for re-enactors, for example, and
       she's made a few wedding dresses), and she said she would turn
       down the work for the reasons VorFemme cited.  She did say that
       she once took apart a very nice kilt that no longer fit and was
       able to make another garment from it (another style of skirt),
       but there are yards of fabric in a kilt to work with.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I learned about how much fabric there is in a kilt watching the
       Great British Sewing Bee. All those pleats! This whole
       conversation has also made me think of that show, because the
       first challenge of each episode was to convert an existing
       garment into something completely different. As you can imagine,
       some were more successful than others. If you like sewing,
       highly recommend checking the show out online (same producers as
       the Bake Off).
       [/quote]
       Oh!  That sounds good.  Is it on Netflix?
       [/quote]
       Sorry, no (at least not in Canada). I watched it on Youtube.
       #Post#: 43688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: December 13, 2019, 11:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Hanna link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Winterlight link=topic=1431.msg43560#msg43560
       date=1576041529]
       > Here's a link
  HTML https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/difference-double-breasted-suit-jacket-single-breasted-suit-jackets/<br
       />with double and single breasted jackets. As you can see, the
       entire front of the jacket is different. Pockets wouldn't fit in
       the same place, especially if you're cutting it down from a
       coat. Depending on whether she wants a short or long jacket,
       pockets might not even be possible, moved or not. The lapel
       won't look like it does now, and she wants to keep that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Can cut in pockets be “moved”? Wouldn’t you have a big seam
       where the pockets previously existed?
       [/quote]
       Probably.  But one could make seam part th design.  Straight
       across, slanting up or down.  It would add some structural
       interest.
       #Post#: 43690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: Hanna
       Date: December 13, 2019, 11:24 am
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       --- Quote from: oogyda link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Hanna link=topic=1431.msg43566#msg43566
       date=1576061995]
       > [quote author=Winterlight link=topic=1431.msg43560#msg43560
       date=1576041529]
       > Here's a link
  HTML https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/difference-double-breasted-suit-jacket-single-breasted-suit-jackets/<br
       />with double and single breasted jackets. As you can see, the
       entire front of the jacket is different. Pockets wouldn't fit in
       the same place, especially if you're cutting it down from a
       coat. Depending on whether she wants a short or long jacket,
       pockets might not even be possible, moved or not. The lapel
       won't look like it does now, and she wants to keep that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Can cut in pockets be “moved”? Wouldn’t you have a big seam
       where the pockets previously existed?
       [/quote]
       Probably.  But one could make seam part th design.  Straight
       across, slanting up or down.  It would add some structural
       interest.
       [/quote]
       Yes, that’s what I meant.  Asking a seamstress who specializes
       in alterations to redesign and remake a coat is just odd to me.
       Like asking my mechanic to build me a new car out of an old one.
       Someone can do it, but that’s not what they do there!
       #Post#: 43789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Turning down business
   DIR By: Copper Horsewoman
       Date: December 15, 2019, 10:48 am
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       Oh, this. I am a silver jewelry maker, mostly wire wrapping,
       some bezel work and basic soldering. I get asked to repair
       costume jewelry by soldering all the time. If it isn't silver or
       gold, generally speaking it is what jewelers call "pot metal",
       sometimes plated brass, sometimes some form of tin, sometimes no
       idea what alloy it is. It is NOT going to result in anything
       usable or pretty. Also, I could not re-plate it if I did manage
       to put it back together. Plus, popping rhinestones or crystals
       out prior to soldering would run a high risk of damaging either
       the stones or the settings for them. I have told people to go to
       a jeweler who can cast pieces and have the piece entirely
       remade. Even if they choose to have it remade in something like
       brass, they are astonished at how expensive it will be. Sorry,
       one-off work is always going to be vastly more than mass
       production.
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