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       #Post#: 41963--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Hmmm Date: November 13, 2019, 4:21 pm
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       [quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1398.msg41954#msg41954
       date=1573680576]
       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1398.msg41944#msg41944
       date=1573675368]
       Though I did once get kind of mad at a girl at the church youth
       group who took 4 chocolate chip cookies and threw all but half
       of one away.
       There was nothing weird about my choc.chip cookies; they were
       their normal delicious selves. Mostly I was grumpy that she took
       that many if she had any idea that she wasn't going to like
       them.
       She could have come and gotten more; I always had plenty.
       [/quote]
       I once hosted a youth group (my husband is clergy) for a dinner
       at our house.  I hadn't had to cook or provide anything, it was
       all sent over, but we were supervising.  It drove me crazy to
       see abandoned plates with entire, untouched pieces of chicken on
       them -- not even one bite -- that were going to have to go into
       the garbage.  (Other food, too, but I am especially sensitive
       about throwing away meat, which was a living creature, even
       though I am not vegetarian).  Anyway, I explained to the kids
       that the untaken leftover food was going to go to a homeless
       shelter, and what was on their plates couldn't.  They could eat
       the whole lot if they wanted, and welcome, but spoiling what
       they weren't even going to taste wasn't just wasteful, it meant
       taking food away from hungry people.  So I assume I was out of
       line for noticing what others ate, let alone commenting on it,
       but I'm not sorry I did it.  I bet at least one of them
       remembered it and was more thoughtful about food waste in the
       future.
       [/quote]
       I think giving a reminder to youth prior to eating is ok.  I
       seem to remember that being a standard direction when
       supervising youth groups.
       #Post#: 41964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Copper Horsewoman Date: November 13, 2019, 4:46 pm
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       [quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1398.msg41954#msg41954
       date=1573680576]
       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1398.msg41944#msg41944
       date=1573675368]
       Though I did once get kind of mad at a girl at the church youth
       group who took 4 chocolate chip cookies and threw all but half
       of one away.
       There was nothing weird about my choc.chip cookies; they were
       their normal delicious selves. Mostly I was grumpy that she took
       that many if she had any idea that she wasn't going to like
       them.
       She could have come and gotten more; I always had plenty.
       [/quote]
       I once hosted a youth group (my husband is clergy) for a dinner
       at our house.  I hadn't had to cook or provide anything, it was
       all sent over, but we were supervising.  It drove me crazy to
       see abandoned plates with entire, untouched pieces of chicken on
       them -- not even one bite -- that were going to have to go into
       the garbage.  (Other food, too, but I am especially sensitive
       about throwing away meat, which was a living creature, even
       though I am not vegetarian).  Anyway, I explained to the kids
       that the untaken leftover food was going to go to a homeless
       shelter, and what was on their plates couldn't.  They could eat
       the whole lot if they wanted, and welcome, but spoiling what
       they weren't even going to taste wasn't just wasteful, it meant
       taking food away from hungry people.  So I assume I was out of
       line for noticing what others ate, let alone commenting on it,
       but I'm not sorry I did it.  I bet at least one of them
       remembered it and was more thoughtful about food waste in the
       future.
       [/quote]
       I will call this "teaching" and "guiding" youth, not criticizing
       what an adult guest did. I see a big difference here.
       #Post#: 41967--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: GardenGal Date: November 13, 2019, 5:43 pm
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       I have done a Thanksgiving pot luck for about the last 40 years,
       and it's my favorite holiday of the year.  I do 2-3 turkeys
       (sometimes we have over 25 people, and what good is Thanksgiving
       if you can't take home leftovers?), gravy, stuffing, & cranberry
       sauce.  The rest is pot luck. Now that we have at least 2
       vegetarians who come every year, I make a 2nd vegetarian gravy,
       plus a vegetarian main.  And I ask everyone else to bring only
       vegetarian sides & desserts.  Works out great for everyone, and
       if you really have to have bacon on your green beans, just bring
       it separately.
       #Post#: 41973--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Runningstar Date: November 13, 2019, 6:27 pm
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       [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=1398.msg41967#msg41967
       date=1573688639]
       I have done a Thanksgiving pot luck for about the last 40 years,
       and it's my favorite holiday of the year.  I do 2-3 turkeys
       (sometimes we have over 25 people, and what good is Thanksgiving
       if you can't take home leftovers?), gravy, stuffing, & cranberry
       sauce.  The rest is pot luck. Now that we have at least 2
       vegetarians who come every year, I make a 2nd vegetarian gravy,
       plus a vegetarian main.  And I ask everyone else to bring only
       vegetarian sides & desserts.  Works out great for everyone, and
       if you really have to have bacon on your green beans, just bring
       it separately.
       [/quote]
       Last year, along with the full turkey spread,  I made a
       "gardenia" brand "Tofurky" roast that came with the gravy and
       stuffing. While I didn't expect for it to be the greatest, for
       $15.00 for a few servings, it was pretty lousy imo.
       
       I had printed out a recipe to make my own "tofurky", but it
       would have been too much work & expense (called for so many
       different items that I would have had to go buy to just use a
       bit of).  Does anyone out there make their own and would give
       the recipe here?
       #Post#: 41976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Rose Red Date: November 13, 2019, 7:00 pm
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       [quote author=Runningstar link=topic=1398.msg41973#msg41973
       date=1573691242]
       [quote author=GardenGal link=topic=1398.msg41967#msg41967
       date=1573688639]
       I have done a Thanksgiving pot luck for about the last 40 years,
       and it's my favorite holiday of the year.  I do 2-3 turkeys
       (sometimes we have over 25 people, and what good is Thanksgiving
       if you can't take home leftovers?), gravy, stuffing, & cranberry
       sauce.  The rest is pot luck. Now that we have at least 2
       vegetarians who come every year, I make a 2nd vegetarian gravy,
       plus a vegetarian main.  And I ask everyone else to bring only
       vegetarian sides & desserts.  Works out great for everyone, and
       if you really have to have bacon on your green beans, just bring
       it separately.
       [/quote]
       Last year, along with the full turkey spread,  I made a
       "gardenia" brand "Tofurky" roast that came with the gravy and
       stuffing. While I didn't expect for it to be the greatest, for
       $15.00 for a few servings, it was pretty lousy imo.
       
       I had printed out a recipe to make my own "tofurky", but it
       would have been too much work & expense (called for so many
       different items that I would have had to go buy to just use a
       bit of).  Does anyone out there make their own and would give
       the recipe here?
       [/quote]
       I like tofu but tofurky always looks disgusting to me. I've
       never tried it so I could be wrong and a poster may have a good
       recipe.
       But I'd rather have some kind of vegetarian casserole or
       eggplant parmesan for thanksgiving than tofu molded into a
       turkey. Good food and good company beats the tradition of a
       (fake) turkey any day.
       #Post#: 41978--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Gellchom Date: November 13, 2019, 9:11 pm
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       When my cousin was a vegetarian, she once brought a Tofurkey.
       “It’s not that bad! I almost look forward to it!” she said. I
       said, “Hey, that would make a great advertising slogan!”
       It was only semi-awful.
       #Post#: 41983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Aleko Date: November 14, 2019, 3:33 am
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       Speaking as a foreigner from across the Pond: as I understand
       it, turkey is integral to Thanksgiving because that was what the
       Pilgrims had to celebrate with, et cetera. In other words, it's
       not just 'traditional' (as it is at Christmas)  just because
       it's the-biggest-bird-you-can-roast so there is plenty for
       everyone. So you're to some extent stuck with having turkey, or
       something that looks like turkey, on the table. Do tell me if I
       have got this wrong.
       But if tofurkey is that bad, does the
       thing-that-looks-like-turkey on the table actually need to be
       edible? I think it might actually be a whole lot nicer to have a
       turkey-shaped serving dish, e.g. something like this:
  HTML https://www.ebay.com/c/904160493,
       or even a paper sculpture like
       this:
  HTML https://www.pinterest.com/pin/164662930104186004/
       -
       concealing something delicious that people really want to eat.
       #Post#: 41987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Rose Red Date: November 14, 2019, 6:05 am
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=1398.msg41983#msg41983
       date=1573724038]
       Speaking as a foreigner from across the Pond: as I understand
       it, turkey is integral to Thanksgiving because that was what the
       Pilgrims had to celebrate with, et cetera. In other words, it's
       not just 'traditional' (as it is at Christmas)  just because
       it's the-biggest-bird-you-can-roast so there is plenty for
       everyone. So you're to some extent stuck with having turkey, or
       something that looks like turkey, on the table. Do tell me if I
       have got this wrong.
       But if tofurkey is that bad, does the
       thing-that-looks-like-turkey on the table actually need to be
       edible? I think it might actually be a whole lot nicer to have a
       turkey-shaped serving dish, e.g. something like this:
  HTML https://www.ebay.com/c/904160493,
       or even a paper sculpture like
       this:
  HTML https://www.pinterest.com/pin/164662930104186004/
       -
       concealing something delicious that people really want to eat.
       [/quote]
       No, we're not stuck with only having turkey as the main course.
       We like traditions but individual families also have their own
       traditions. I've known families who serve chicken, roast, ham,
       Chinese, Cuban, Italian, etc. There's so many cultures and
       lifestyles in the US and turkey is not in everyone's taste or
       budget. What's most important is family and friends.
       If I invite guests, I will warn them turkey won't be served
       because some people look forward to foods they only eat once a
       year.
       #Post#: 41990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Aleko Date: November 14, 2019, 7:18 am
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       [quote]No, we're not stuck with only having turkey as the main
       course. We like traditions but individual families also have
       their own traditions. I've known families who serve chicken,
       roast, ham, Chinese, Cuban, Italian, etc. There's so many
       cultures and lifestyles in the US and turkey is not in
       everyone's taste or budget. What's most important is family and
       friends.[/quote]
       Thanks for clarifying! In that case, there seems to be very
       little need for anyone to feel they have to serve revolting
       imitations of it.
       #Post#: 41994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thanksgiving Potluck. 
       By: Hmmm Date: November 14, 2019, 8:04 am
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       [quote author=Aleko link=topic=1398.msg41990#msg41990
       date=1573737486]
       [quote]No, we're not stuck with only having turkey as the main
       course. We like traditions but individual families also have
       their own traditions. I've known families who serve chicken,
       roast, ham, Chinese, Cuban, Italian, etc. There's so many
       cultures and lifestyles in the US and turkey is not in
       everyone's taste or budget. What's most important is family and
       friends.[/quote]
       Thanks for clarifying! In that case, there seems to be very
       little need for anyone to feel they have to serve revolting
       imitations of it.
       [/quote]
       In my opinion, tofurky is a product created either because meat
       eaters not being able to imagine non-meateaters being happy at
       thanksgiving without something that looks and tastes like
       turkey. Or vegetarians trying to provide something they thought
       the meat eaters would like without having to provide actual
       meat.
       I've never actually met anyone who bought it because they wanted
       to eat it.
       Also, though we serve turkey each year, I've never been at a
       dinner where the turkey was brought whole to the table and
       carved. I'm sure it is done in some homes but pre-carving and
       serving from a platter is so much easier.
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