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       #Post#: 38886--------------------------------------------------
       Loud talker. 
       By: SioCat Date: September 18, 2019, 5:37 pm
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       My boyfriend and I are torn on whether this gentleman is rude or
       not.
       There is a small strip mall where that has a coffee shop with
       outdoor seating, a boutique store, then a diner with outdoor
       seating. The coffee shops outdoor seating is very nice with lots
       of comfy chairs and benches. They obviously want people to sit
       and enjoy. The diner only has two outdoor tables.
       We had breakfast today at the diner and sat outside by choice.
       There was a gentleman sitting outside the coffee shop who was
       having a very loud phone conversation. I mean, loud. He was
       going on and on about financial stuff and work stuff. This went
       on for the entire time we were having breakfast. It didn’t ruin
       our breakfast, because we our conversation tuned him out, but we
       did have a discussion later about it. The outside coffee area
       was more than half full because it was a nice day out.
       So what do you all think?
       #Post#: 38887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: AnnNottingham Date: September 18, 2019, 5:43 pm
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       Rude, but perhaps unintentional.  Many people don't realize how
       loud they speak, on the phone or otherwise.  Or he might have a
       hearing problem.
       #Post#: 38889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: sandisadie Date: September 18, 2019, 5:50 pm
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       I don't think anything can be done about people talking loudly
       on their phones.  I don't think speaking to them does any good
       either.  By now, I'm just resigned to people on phones acting
       rudely.  I usually just try to get away from someone like that,
       if possible.
       #Post#: 38900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: Gladly Date: September 19, 2019, 2:06 am
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       [quote author=sandisadie link=topic=1334.msg38889#msg38889
       date=1568847026]
       I don't think anything can be done about people talking loudly
       on their phones.  I don't think speaking to them does any good
       either.  By now, I'm just resigned to people on phones acting
       rudely.  I usually just try to get away from someone like that,
       if possible.
       [/quote]
       This coiuld well be true, and I expect I'm often accused of the
       same.  My husband is hard of hearing, and hates using his
       hearing aid.  As a result I have got used to speaking loudly at
       home.  I confess that sometimes I forget when I'm somewhere
       else, that it isn't necessary to speak quite so loudly!
       #Post#: 38909--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: kckgirl Date: September 19, 2019, 8:46 am
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       I still remember everybody on eHell complaining about people
       talking really loud when they were on their phones. I had never
       experienced it, until I was in the ER with my mother a few years
       ago. The lady in the next "cubicle" was speaking in a normal
       tone of voice with her family. Then she called somebody to tell
       them what was going on, and I think they could have heard her in
       Cleveland. I've never heard it again after that, but it was so
       bizarre. Do they think they have to talk loud to carry their
       voices across the miles?
       #Post#: 38912--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: Isisnin Date: September 19, 2019, 9:35 am
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       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=1334.msg38909#msg38909
       date=1568900805]
       ... Do they think they have to talk loud to carry their voices
       across the miles?
       [/quote]
       Maybe. I've noticed that I have a harder time hearing people who
       are speaking on their cell phones and more and more people are
       dumping their land lines for cell phones. So people might be
       raising their voices to compensate for the poor connection.
       Except for better connections and better phones (which we don't
       control), there doesn't seem to be an answer to these loud
       private phone conversation in public. People can choose not to
       use their phones in public - but that ain't gonna happen.
       #Post#: 38913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: Rose Red Date: September 19, 2019, 9:57 am
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       [quote author=Isisnin link=topic=1334.msg38912#msg38912
       date=1568903742]
       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=1334.msg38909#msg38909
       date=1568900805]
       ... Do they think they have to talk loud to carry their voices
       across the miles?
       [/quote]
       Maybe. I've noticed that I have a harder time hearing people who
       are speaking on their cell phones and more and more people are
       dumping their land lines for cell phones. So people might be
       raising their voices to compensate for the poor connection.
       Except for better connections and better phones (which we don't
       control), there doesn't seem to be an answer to these loud
       private phone conversation in public. People can choose not to
       use their phones in public - but that ain't gonna happen.
       [/quote]
       Yeah. The connection for my cell phone sucks which is why I
       prefer text. It's an iphone so you'd think something so
       expensive would be good, but even my old flip phone from 15-20
       years ago was better.
       I totally expect people on cell phones to speak loudly. It's not
       even something I think about anymore.
       #Post#: 38914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: Luci Date: September 19, 2019, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=1334.msg38909#msg38909
       date=1568900805]
       I still remember everybody on eHell complaining about people
       talking really loud when they were on their phones. I had never
       experienced it, until I was in the ER with my mother a few years
       ago. The lady in the next "cubicle" was speaking in a normal
       tone of voice with her family. Then she called somebody to tell
       them what was going on, and I think they could have heard her in
       Cleveland. I've never heard it again after that, but it was so
       bizarre. Do they think they have to talk loud to carry their
       voices across the miles?
       [/quote]
       Sometimes I’ve needed to speak loudly when I called certain
       people from public places, for instance my Dad, but then call
       others in a quiet voice, so that may have been what was going on
       in the ER. That was a necessary call.
       #Post#: 38918--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 19, 2019, 11:37 am
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       [quote author=Isisnin link=topic=1334.msg38912#msg38912
       date=1568903742]
       [quote author=kckgirl link=topic=1334.msg38909#msg38909
       date=1568900805]
       ... Do they think they have to talk loud to carry their voices
       across the miles?
       [/quote]
       Maybe. I've noticed that I have a harder time hearing people who
       are speaking on their cell phones and more and more people are
       dumping their land lines for cell phones. So people might be
       raising their voices to compensate for the poor connection.
       Except for better connections and better phones (which we don't
       control), there doesn't seem to be an answer to these loud
       private phone conversation in public. People can choose not to
       use their phones in public - but that ain't gonna happen.
       [/quote]
       I think it's more than the old landline phones would play your
       voice into your own ear. But I don't think cell phones do.
       Plus, we're often talking on them in a place with a lot more
       ambient noise, so we're trying to drown that out, even if only
       to ourselves.
       I do think you can catch someone's eye and indicate "please
       lower your volume" by holding your hand out, flat with palm
       down, and moving it down. I don't think that's rude; it's a way
       to ask them to please not disturb you.
       You give it tone with your facial expression.
       #Post#: 38919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Loud talker. 
       By: TootsNYC Date: September 19, 2019, 11:38 am
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       I think you can also ask your cafe to ban cell phone
       conversations in all their eating areas.
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