DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
Bad Manners and Brimstone
HTML https://badmanners.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Life in General
*****************************************************
#Post#: 1277--------------------------------------------------
The handicap stall.
DIR By: MOM21SON
Date: May 16, 2018, 8:15 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
I have a problem.
The toilets and my work are so low! I literally could not get
up! My first day there, the only thing to grab onto was the
sanitary napkin bin which I did and knocked it out into the
stall next to me. So I have been using the handicap stall.
Many other people use it too and have commented on how low the
seats are. I feel guilty. When I have exited, thankfully no
one has ever been waiting.
So what do ya'll recommend?
#Post#: 1281--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: guest260
Date: May 16, 2018, 8:29 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Can you not get up because of mobility issues? If so, then
there's no issue with using the accessible stall.
#Post#: 1282--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: guest14
Date: May 16, 2018, 8:31 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
I think you use the toilet you can use. And maybe if you do ever
find someone waiting, ask if they have an issue. If it comes
up regularly, let them know.
#Post#: 1291--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: TootsNYC
Date: May 16, 2018, 9:00 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Continue to use the handicap stall. They aren't like parking
spaces, which are reserved; they are just available.
Especially in a "closed environment" like work, you're likely to
be able to predict how often you'll be in the way of someone who
needs it.
My personal thought is, if no one is there, anyone can go in any
stall. If there's a line, and someone who is obviously in need
of that stall comes in, I'm happy for them to go to the front of
the line. If their need for that stall is not obvious, then they
can either speak up, and I'll support their going to the front,
or they could wait and then go in that stall when it's
available.
I still remember the time that I went into a rest stop on the
interstate and there were 3 regular and 1 handicap stall. There
was a line of 5 women waiting, and the handicap stall was empty.
I wasn't about to wait for all of them to cycle through only 3
stalls--I had to go! So I said, "Do any of you need the handicap
stall?" They said no. I asked, "Are any of you going to use it?"
They looked at me in shock. I said, "Well, I'm going to use it
then. Holler if someone comes through the door in a wheelchair."
*
The other thing I might suggest you do is to find a way to
mention to the Facilities people that the toilets are low and
several people have mentioned to you that they find them
difficult to use. In case they can install hand grips in other
stalls (even if those stalls aren't wide enough to accommodate a
mobility device like a walker or wheelchair.
*yes, I know that people can have a medical reason to need those
stalls that isn't evident
#Post#: 1298--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: Pattycake
Date: May 16, 2018, 9:16 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
The handicap stall is for anyone who needs it, and trust me, if
you have bad knees or hips, you need it. I had one perfectly
fine working toilet in my house replaced because of bad knees,
and am very glad I did. And if there's no one who apparently
needs that accommodation, the stalls shouldn't be left vacant
when an able bodied person is in need! People are so silly
sometimes.
#Post#: 1300--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: Octavia
Date: May 16, 2018, 9:18 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
In the USA, the Americans with Disabilities Act requires
handicapped stalls to be provided for handicapped people, but
not restricted to only handicapped people. So there's no legal
restriction against using the handicapped stall.
I agree with Toots' suggestion to tell building management about
the toilet situation as well as any other issues like the towel
holders mounted in an awkward location on the wall. I worked for
an architectural & engineering firm for several years, and some
designers only specify the placement of fixtures according to
minimum standards without consideration for the comfort of the
end user. If enough people complain, they might fix the
problems.
#Post#: 1358--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: Sweetonsno
Date: May 17, 2018, 12:04 am
---------------------------------------------------------
I’m with the others: you’re in the clear.
Not all disabilities require a wheelchair, walker, or other sort
of equipment. There are many reasons for which someone might
need a handrail or a bit of extra room. Furthermore, the
accessible stall isn’t “reserved”; it just needs to be
available. If someone who is in a wheelchair/using a walker/with
someone who is clearly there to help them, it would be nice to
offer to let them go first if there is a line (especially if
it’s a child, I think). However, if there’s no line, I’m all for
taking whichever stall you’d like.
#Post#: 1380--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: iolaus
Date: May 17, 2018, 2:37 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Those stalls are accessible to all IMHO,
In the UK at any rate those which are disabled ONLY have a radar
key
#Post#: 1410--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: Hmmm
Date: May 17, 2018, 8:54 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Agreeing with everyone else. The stalls are not reserved for
handicap only use.
#Post#: 1413--------------------------------------------------
Re: The handicap stall.
DIR By: Jem
Date: May 17, 2018, 9:00 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: MOM21SON link ---
>
> I have a problem.
>
> The toilets and my work are so low! I literally could not get
up! My first day there, the only thing to grab onto was the
sanitary napkin bin which I did and knocked it out into the
stall next to me. So I have been using the handicap stall.
Many other people use it too and have commented on how low the
seats are. I feel guilty. When I have exited, thankfully no
one has ever been waiting.
>
> So what do ya'll recommend?
>
--- End Quote ---
I wouldn't worry about this even IF someone in a wheelchair is
waiting when you exit the stall. So long as you are not barging
in front of anyone else (whether handicapped or not) there is no
reason why anyone should get to barge in front of you (absent
some sort of unusual circumstance). Sure, it might be kind to
allow someone to go ahead of you, and of course I would send
someone in a wheelchair ahead of me if the handicapped stall
opened and they were waiting behind me, but it certainly is not
required and certainly is not rude NOT to allow someone to budge
in line.
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 4
DIR Next Page