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       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: AnnesWhiteLady
       Date: August 13, 2019, 1:19 pm
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       Generally speaking, I either volunteer for an organization or I
       donate money to an organization.  Both get matched by my
       employer so it's sort of a 2-for-1 with me.  For the former, my
       valuable time IS my donation and to expect to pay on top of this
       would bother me to the point of finding another organization who
       would appreciate my time appropriately.  Besides, I rarely have
       time to actually eat at any event where I'm volunteering.
       #Post#: 36580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Contrarian
       Date: August 13, 2019, 4:35 pm
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       I’m a bit confused by the idea of some volunteers putting in two
       hours where others put in 40, or something about a huge amount
       of volunteers being needed and the company becoming too much.
       I’ve never seen an event where, if there are volunteers working
       for a full week, which ends with a charity dinner, those
       volunteers who have been working all week are awarded a dinner,
       even though they are not working the night it’s served.
       For meals to be free, volunteers have to be on site at the time
       and usually involved directly in the part of the event that
       includes food. It’s not about how much time you’ve put in, it’s
       just that there’s always enough food for the day, 7 people and 3
       kitchen staff volunteering to prepare and serve the meal on site
       for 70 guests.
       If you did the flyers for the Saturday event on a Tuesday, you
       don’t get asked to attend the event to get a free meal.
       The free meal is, we’ve ordered plenty of food, here it is, have
       a plate on your break.
       That’s it.
       #Post#: 36581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: chigger
       Date: August 13, 2019, 4:51 pm
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       [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1265.msg36580#msg36580
       date=1565732156]
       I’m a bit confused by the idea of some volunteers putting in two
       hours where others put in 40, or something about a huge amount
       of volunteers being needed and the company becoming too much.
       I’ve never seen an event where, if there are volunteers working
       for a full week, which ends with a charity dinner, those
       volunteers who have been working all week are awarded a dinner,
       even though they are not working the night it’s served.
       For meals to be free, volunteers have to be on site at the time
       and usually involved directly in the part of the event that
       includes food. It’s not about how much time you’ve put in, it’s
       just that there’s always enough food for the day, 7 people and 3
       kitchen staff volunteering to prepare and serve the meal on site
       for 70 guests.
       If you did the flyers for the Saturday event on a Tuesday, you
       don’t get asked to attend the event to get a free meal.
       The free meal is, we’ve ordered plenty of food, here it is, have
       a plate on your break.
       That’s it.
       [/quot
       I believe the OP was speaking of a catered dinner provided by a
       company that is paid per person.
       #Post#: 36588--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: prock929
       Date: August 13, 2019, 6:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: chigger link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1265.msg36580#msg36580
       date=1565732156]
       > I’m a bit confused by the idea of some volunteers putting in
       two hours where others put in 40, or something about a huge
       amount of volunteers being needed and the company becoming too
       much.
       >
       > I’ve never seen an event where, if there are volunteers
       working for a full week, which ends with a charity dinner, those
       volunteers who have been working all week are awarded a dinner,
       even though they are not working the night it’s served.
       >
       > For meals to be free, volunteers have to be on site at the
       time and usually involved directly in the part of the event that
       includes food. It’s not about how much time you’ve put in, it’s
       just that there’s always enough food for the day, 7 people and 3
       kitchen staff volunteering to prepare and serve the meal on site
       for 70 guests.
       >
       > If you did the flyers for the Saturday event on a Tuesday, you
       don’t get asked to attend the event to get a free meal.
       >
       > The free meal is, we’ve ordered plenty of food, here it is,
       have a plate on your break.
       >
       > That’s it.
       > [/quot
       >
       >
       > I believe the OP was speaking of a catered dinner provided by
       a company that is paid per person.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually, it is a catered buffet at a picnic.   The cost to the
       charity is figured per head.  In previous years, the food was
       pretty much donated so it was up to the individual volunteer
       whether to pay the entrance fee or not.  This year, however,
       since it is different caterer (who is charging the charity),
       volunteers will need to pay for their meals (at least)
       #Post#: 36606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: wolfie
       Date: August 14, 2019, 9:46 am
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       --- Quote from: prock929 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=chigger link=topic=1265.msg36581#msg36581
       date=1565733063]
       > [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1265.msg36580#msg36580
       date=1565732156]
       > I’m a bit confused by the idea of some volunteers putting in
       two hours where others put in 40, or something about a huge
       amount of volunteers being needed and the company becoming too
       much.
       >
       > I’ve never seen an event where, if there are volunteers
       working for a full week, which ends with a charity dinner, those
       volunteers who have been working all week are awarded a dinner,
       even though they are not working the night it’s served.
       >
       > For meals to be free, volunteers have to be on site at the
       time and usually involved directly in the part of the event that
       includes food. It’s not about how much time you’ve put in, it’s
       just that there’s always enough food for the day, 7 people and 3
       kitchen staff volunteering to prepare and serve the meal on site
       for 70 guests.
       >
       > If you did the flyers for the Saturday event on a Tuesday, you
       don’t get asked to attend the event to get a free meal.
       >
       > The free meal is, we’ve ordered plenty of food, here it is,
       have a plate on your break.
       >
       > That’s it.
       > [/quot
       >
       >
       > I believe the OP was speaking of a catered dinner provided by
       a company that is paid per person.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually, it is a catered buffet at a picnic.   The cost to the
       charity is figured per head.  In previous years, the food was
       pretty much donated so it was up to the individual volunteer
       whether to pay the entrance fee or not.  This year, however,
       since it is different caterer (who is charging the charity),
       volunteers will need to pay for their meals (at least)
       [/quote]
       Can you be bit more specific about what the even is? Is it just
       the picnic? Is it something (let's say a carnival) with a meal
       included?
       Is the fee the volunteers have to pay the same as the entrance
       fee? Or is the entrance fee like $50 and the food is $20 so the
       volunteers would only pay $20?
       either way I am not okay with the volunteers having to pay
       anything at all but if the entrance fee is $20 and that is what
       I am paying then for me I am a guest first and a volunteer
       second. I am not going to pay exactly what everyone else pays
       and then not even get to enjoy the event.
       #Post#: 36625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: August 14, 2019, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: Contrarian link ---
       >
       > I’m a bit confused by the idea of some volunteers putting in
       two hours where others put in 40, or something about a huge
       amount of volunteers being needed and the company becoming too
       much.
       >
       > I’ve never seen an event where, if there are volunteers
       working for a full week, which ends with a charity dinner, those
       volunteers who have been working all week are awarded a dinner,
       even though they are not working the night it’s served.
       >
       > For meals to be free, volunteers have to be on site at the
       time and usually involved directly in the part of the event that
       includes food. It’s not about how much time you’ve put in, it’s
       just that there’s always enough food for the day, 7 people and 3
       kitchen staff volunteering to prepare and serve the meal on site
       for 70 guests.
       >
       > If you did the flyers for the Saturday event on a Tuesday, you
       don’t get asked to attend the event to get a free meal.
       >
       > The free meal is, we’ve ordered plenty of food, here it is,
       have a plate on your break.
       >
       > That’s it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm a fairly good event organizer (nothing large scale). I have
       often spent weeks and even months working on them.  It usually
       starts out with a few hours here and there and ends with
       concentrated effort in the last few days.
       If I've done my job right, I wont have to lift a finger at the
       event, but I won't be paying for any part.  Not food, not
       entertainment,  nothing.
       #Post#: 36764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer Minor update p46
   DIR By: prock929
       Date: August 16, 2019, 8:58 am
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       So we had a picnic committee meeting last night and I am still
       fuming about it.
       Volunteers paying was not really brought up. I did not bring it
       up myself as I am in the minority on this issue and am always
       made to feel like I am a bad person who likes taking money out
       of the charity’s pockets. (Not just from my sisters, but from
       the rest of the committee. ) The only time the issue was brought
       up was when B asked if I was planning on helping out.  I said I
       was but that I would bring my own food.
       Shortly after that, some asked if B’s husband (BH) was gong to
       help out.  In the past, BH has been our cook. But since this
       year’s event is being  catered, BH will be helping out in other
       ways.
       Well, almost immediately, someone says “we should pay for BH’s
       ticket “  So apparently BH is the only volunteer to get their
       ticket paid for.  😡
       This is on top of the fact that we are already giving companies
       who sponsor the picnic free tickets (one company is getting 10
       free tickets) that often go unused and the fact that we give 2
       free tickets to each of the families the charity helped in the
       past year.  (Which also often go unused)
       And yet we can’t afford $250* to make sure people volunteering
       at the event don’t have to pay for their meal
       😡😡
       *$20 x 12 volunteers
       #Post#: 36773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: August 16, 2019, 12:48 pm
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       I think when they suggested paying for BH's meal would have been
       a perfect time to bring up the subject of not having volunteers
       pay.  Or asking why he should get preferential treatment.  What
       was the decision on that?
       Are you still planning on bowing out of the organization after
       this?
       #Post#: 36775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: QueenFaninCA
       Date: August 16, 2019, 1:52 pm
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       Perhaps your organisation needs to rethink their fundraiser. How
       much money is coming in in the end and how many hours of
       volunteers are you spending on that (and how much money do the
       volunteers contribute to what is coming in)?
       I have been part of several non-profits. And there were some
       fundraisers which we only did once or twice whereas others
       became an annual thing simply because some made very little
       money but required many hours of volunteers whereas others
       required only minimal hours by volunteers but brought in a lot
       of money.
       #Post#: 36794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer Minor update p46
   DIR By: Runningstar
       Date: August 16, 2019, 8:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: prock929 link ---
       >
       >
       > Shortly after that, some asked if B’s husband (BH) was gong to
       help out.  In the past, BH has been our cook. But since this
       year’s event is being  catered, BH will be helping out in other
       ways.
       >
       > Well, almost immediately, someone says “we should pay for BH’s
       ticket “  So apparently BH is the only volunteer to get their
       ticket paid for.  😡
       > 😡
       >
       > *$20 x 12 volunteers
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That would really make me not want to help out again.  I wonder
       if your family understands that this is a financial burden for
       you?  It's a good reminder to never just assume a "mere $20" is
       ok for everyone.
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