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       #Post#: 36274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Kimberami
       Date: August 9, 2019, 7:35 am
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       In the situation described, I would let the volunteers in for
       free and offer them a choice of eating (and paying for) the
       catered lunch or bringing their own lunch. Some volunteers would
       be in a position to donate money as well as volunteer. Often, I
       elect to volunteer time because I can't afford to donate money.
       By asking me to pay to volunteer, I would feel that my time was
       not seen as a worthwhile asset by the organization. That would
       make me think twice about volunteering in the future.
       #Post#: 36277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: August 9, 2019, 7:59 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > By asking me to pay to volunteer, I would feel that my time
       was not seen as a worthwhile asset by the organization. That
       would make me think twice about volunteering in the future.
       --- End Quote ---
       And, surely, that your efforts were not seen as valuable either!
       It's the implied disrespect that would be the deal-breaker for
       me.
       #Post#: 36305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Luci
       Date: August 9, 2019, 11:36 am
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       If I volunteer for a charity I can’t afford, I quit
       volunteering, or I don’t go to that event.
       #Post#: 36317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: TootsNYC
       Date: August 9, 2019, 1:01 pm
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       I'd prefer to be able to eat without paying, but I checked "pay
       a reduced price." But I'd also want the option to bring a
       sandwich or something so I didn't have to.
       I'd have to feed myself lunch anyway, so some cost would be
       fair.
       Presumably I'm volunteering because I really care about the
       cause, so I'd be OK w/ bearing some expense (especially if I
       knew it was going to cost the charity).
       But if I *ran* the charity, I'd be trying to figure out how to
       bear that cost.
       For weddings, often the caterer agrees to provide a less
       expensive option for all the vendors like DJ, photographer,
       wedding planner, etc.; so the customer pays for their meals
       (they never pay!), but pays less. So instead of prime rib of
       salmon, the DJ gets a decent sandwich or something.
       Or they get the same entrée, but they don't get the extra
       courses, or the wine. And they don't get a fancy table service
       and waiter attention, which makes it possible for the caterer to
       be willing to charge just a little less.
       I'd be trying to figure out a way to keep volunteers from having
       to pay.
       And if the charity grows, or even just lasts long enough that
       the volunteers lose some of the excitement/good vibes, then
       you'd going to need to not ask them to pay anything in order to
       be there.
       #Post#: 36327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: August 9, 2019, 2:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Luci link ---
       >
       > If I volunteer for a charity I can’t afford, I quit
       volunteering, or I don’t go to that event.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       IIRC, this is a family charity of the OP's.  While she has said
       she'll be distancing herself, she was already obligated for this
       event.
       #Post#: 36351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: JXB1000
       Date: August 9, 2019, 7:33 pm
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       I don't think there's an answer (for the poll) that fits 100% of
       the time.  I need a "It depends..." choice.
       Most of the activities with which I volunteer, the volunteer
       does not pay.  And in fact volunteering may offer other perks
       like free admission beyond your shift.
       However, there are many legitimate activities where the culture
       is that "everyone pays".  And it's often because it becomes
       problematic as to where to draw the line about who gets in free
       and who doesn't. If I volunteered 50 hours towards this project
       and someone else worked 2 - do we each get in free?
       This is usually when there's a large membership involved and
       many/most both work and attend. A couple of examples are certain
       conferences held by professional groups (i.e., volunteers
       organizing the conference also have to be registered and pay to
       attend) and organizations that have a single major fundraiser,
       like a dinner where there are dozens of people working on it for
       months.  When you start comping volunteers, it gets really
       complicated quickly.
       That being said, if there's a volunteer for whom the fee is a
       hardship and they literally just want to come, work a specific
       job, leave - we work with them one-on-one.  Or we let them into
       the event for free (beyond whatever shift they are working), but
       maybe they aren't included in the grand prize drawing since they
       didn't pay for a ticket. So on those type of events - the policy
       is "everyone buys a ticket". Otherwise 50-70% of the attendees
       would have to be comp'd.  We deal with any exceptions
       case-by-case and discreetly.
       The groups that operate that way are always very, very clear
       during the planning phase.  And there are also usually some job
       that require volunteering for advance tasks and not being
       onsite.
       #Post#: 36357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Luci
       Date: August 9, 2019, 10:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: oogyda link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Luci link=topic=1265.msg36305#msg36305
       date=1565368588]
       > If I volunteer for a charity I can’t afford, I quit
       volunteering, or I don’t go to that event.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       IIRC, this is a family charity of the OP's.  While she has said
       she'll be distancing herself, she was already obligated for this
       event.
       [/quote]
       I thought it was a poll, not a comment on the OP's particular
       charity.
       #Post#: 36364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: Raintree
       Date: August 10, 2019, 1:54 am
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       I've never been asked to pay to attend an event at which I am
       volunteering. I have always been given a pass to get in, AND
       been fed, if food was being served. I've bought my own food if
       food was not part of it and there happened to be food trucks
       around to buy stuff if you got hungry. But at events where there
       is some big table of food, the volunteers are usually fed
       without having to pay. If someone is giving up their time it
       shouldn't actually cost them.
       #Post#: 36380--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: August 10, 2019, 11:25 am
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       --- Quote from: Luci link ---
       >
       > [quote author=oogyda link=topic=1265.msg36327#msg36327
       date=1565378847]
       > [quote author=Luci link=topic=1265.msg36305#msg36305
       date=1565368588]
       > If I volunteer for a charity I can’t afford, I quit
       volunteering, or I don’t go to that event.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       IIRC, this is a family charity of the OP's.  While she has said
       she'll be distancing herself, she was already obligated for this
       event.
       [/quote]
       I thought it was a poll, not a comment on the OP's particular
       charity.
       [/quote]
       It is a poll.  But, I think Rain's follow-up posts make it clear
       her inquiry was for this particular event.
       I don't think there's anything wrong with commenting to others
       rather than sticking strictly to answering the poll.
       I could be wrong
       #Post#: 36402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paying to volunteer 
   DIR By: prock929
       Date: August 10, 2019, 6:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: oogyda link ---
       >
       >
       > It is a poll.  But, I think Rain's follow-up posts make it
       clear her inquiry was for this particular event.
       >
       > I don't think there's anything wrong with commenting to others
       rather than sticking strictly to answering the poll.
       >
       > I could be wrong
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       While I did have this particular event in mind when asking the
       question, It could apply to other events.  My concern is that,
       as the charity grows and we start bringing in volunteers from
       outside the core family/friends group, we will have difficulty
       with getting people to help with events if they are also
       expected to pay full price.
       I appreciate all of the comments and now have some discussion
       points I can bring up in the future.
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