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       #Post#: 35677--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: bopper Date: July 31, 2019, 10:57 am
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       Its like if we had a fall festival at church and there were
       crafts. Yes, it is free. Yes, I want you to have fun. Yes, you
       can do more than one craft. But if you keep doing a zillion of
       them you are using up the resources that other kids can't have.
       In this case there are a limit of how many rides a pony can give
       in the given time.
       #Post#: 35683--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: Rose Red Date: July 31, 2019, 12:20 pm
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       [quote author=bopper link=topic=1242.msg35677#msg35677
       date=1564588635]
       In this case there are a limit of how many rides a pony can give
       in the given time.
       [/quote]
       Exactly. These are living animals. They can just go round and
       round so many times per day. It may be more understandable
       getting back in line at the end of the day or even every few
       hours, but four in the first hour is excessive and unfair.
       It's like the analogy of free food/stuff. Just because there's a
       table of free cookies doesn't mean you [s]can[/s] should grab
       plates of them and leave nothing to those who haven't made it to
       the table yet.
       #Post#: 35691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: Jem Date: July 31, 2019, 1:42 pm
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       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1242.msg35683#msg35683
       date=1564593610]
       [quote author=bopper link=topic=1242.msg35677#msg35677
       date=1564588635]
       In this case there are a limit of how many rides a pony can give
       in the given time.
       [/quote]
       Exactly. These are living animals. They can just go round and
       round so many times per day. It may be more understandable
       getting back in line at the end of the day or even every few
       hours, but four in the first hour is excessive and unfair.
       It's like the analogy of free food/stuff. Just because there's a
       table of free cookies doesn't mean you [s]can[/s] should grab
       plates of them and leave nothing to those who haven't made it to
       the table yet.
       [/quote]
       The bolded green is the issue from my perspective. At some
       point, I think the pony ride operator had to say something.
       #Post#: 35700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: DaDancingPsych Date: July 31, 2019, 3:31 pm
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       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1242.msg35691#msg35691
       date=1564598556]
       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1242.msg35683#msg35683
       date=1564593610]
       [quote author=bopper link=topic=1242.msg35677#msg35677
       date=1564588635]
       In this case there are a limit of how many rides a pony can give
       in the given time.
       [/quote]
       Exactly. These are living animals. They can just go round and
       round so many times per day. It may be more understandable
       getting back in line at the end of the day or even every few
       hours, but four in the first hour is excessive and unfair.
       It's like the analogy of free food/stuff. Just because there's a
       table of free cookies doesn't mean you [s]can[/s] should grab
       plates of them and leave nothing to those who haven't made it to
       the table yet.
       [/quote]
       The bolded green is the issue from my perspective. At some
       point, I think the pony ride operator had to say something.
       [/quote]
       I know this sounds dumb, but it would not have dawned on me that
       it was excessive. It was not until I started reading the thread
       that I remembered that the ponies need breaks. And I may have
       figured that when the ponies needed a break that they would shut
       things down. Again, I'm not saying that the handler was wrong,
       but I can understand why the OP may not have realized this in
       the moment. Now that I have stepped back and thought it
       through... of course there is a limit to the work the ponies can
       do!
       #Post#: 35706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: OnyxBird Date: July 31, 2019, 4:25 pm
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1242.msg35700#msg35700
       date=1564605072]
       [quote author=Jem link=topic=1242.msg35691#msg35691
       date=1564598556]
       [quote author=Rose Red link=topic=1242.msg35683#msg35683
       date=1564593610]
       [quote author=bopper link=topic=1242.msg35677#msg35677
       date=1564588635]
       In this case there are a limit of how many rides a pony can give
       in the given time.
       [/quote]
       Exactly. These are living animals. They can just go round and
       round so many times per day. It may be more understandable
       getting back in line at the end of the day or even every few
       hours, but four in the first hour is excessive and unfair.
       It's like the analogy of free food/stuff. Just because there's a
       table of free cookies doesn't mean you [s]can[/s] should grab
       plates of them and leave nothing to those who haven't made it to
       the table yet.
       [/quote]
       The bolded green is the issue from my perspective. At some
       point, I think the pony ride operator had to say something.
       [/quote]
       I know this sounds dumb, but it would not have dawned on me that
       it was excessive. It was not until I started reading the thread
       that I remembered that the ponies need breaks. And I may have
       figured that when the ponies needed a break that they would shut
       things down. Again, I'm not saying that the handler was wrong,
       but I can understand why the OP may not have realized this in
       the moment. Now that I have stepped back and thought it
       through... of course there is a limit to the work the ponies can
       do!
       [/quote]
       And adding another element of complexity, the limit to the work
       the ponies can do isn't necessarily a constant. If it's a hot
       day with the sun beating down and/or a bunch of kids at the
       upper end of the weight limit wanting to ride, the ponies may
       need lots of breaks or to end the whole pony-ride offer early.
       On a nice cool day with plenty of shade and only little tots
       riding, the ponies might be able to happily keep going for a
       good long while.
       Hard for the handler to choose an appropriate ride limit in
       advance; even harder for a random fairgoer to guess what's
       reasonable for their kid to ask for...Thus the handler needing
       to be ready to set a limit if and when it becomes necessary.  ;)
       #Post#: 35717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: kidsandme Date: July 31, 2019, 7:18 pm
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       [quote author=DaDancingPsych link=topic=1242.msg35700#msg35700
       date=1564605072]
       I know this sounds dumb, but it would not have dawned on me that
       it was excessive. It was not until I started reading the thread
       that I remembered that the ponies need breaks. And I may have
       figured that when the ponies needed a break that they would shut
       things down. Again, I'm not saying that the handler was wrong,
       but I can understand why the OP may not have realized this in
       the moment. Now that I have stepped back and thought it
       through... of course there is a limit to the work the ponies can
       do!
       [/quote]
       I totally agree with you, it didn't dawn on me till other posted
       about the ponies needing rests too.
       I also didn't equate this to doing a free craft, for that I
       would have only allowed one for my child because that thinking
       of knowing there is a finite number for all kids that will come.
       #Post#: 35800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pony Rides
       By: HenrysMom Date: August 1, 2019, 8:27 pm
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       While it doesn’t sound like OP’s kid was denying another kid a
       chance to ride, (1) the owner perhaps didn’t want to start a
       precedent for future events with the same kids continually
       riding the ponies again and again and again or (2) it could’ve
       been time to start dismantling the ride as OP said the show was
       effectively over.  It’s the owner’s call to say when enough is
       enough - nothing rude about that, as long as he wasn’t rude in
       his delivery.
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