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       #Post#: 35373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: wonderfullyanonymous
       Date: July 26, 2019, 10:14 pm
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       I, too, am one of those people who love weed flowers. I mowed my
       lawn the other day and left a 2 foot tall Queen Anne's Lace in
       the middle of the front yard. I also love dandelions, clovers
       and other wild flowers.
       If this was your property, this could be considered destruction
       of property,  whether they are weeds or not. Make a police
       report.
       #Post#: 35379--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: LifeOnPluto
       Date: July 27, 2019, 1:49 am
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       I am so sorry this happened to you.
       It certainly seems dodgy that your plants died so quickly. I'm
       assuming there was no heatwave or anything which could have
       killed them off?
       Also, how high is the fence between you and your neighbour's
       property? If it's low enough for someone to feasibly tip poison
       onto the other side, then it does seem likely that poison is the
       culprit, sadly.
       As for what to do, I'm kinda stumped on this one. I'd actually
       be quite nervous about confronting someone who thinks it's
       perfectly acceptable to destroy my property like that. But at
       the same time, I'd hate for them to get away with it.
       #Post#: 35388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: July 27, 2019, 7:26 am
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       Don't call the police. You have no proof that the plants were
       poisoned at all, still less that they were poisoned
       deliberately. They may well just laugh in your face, and if they
       don't, what can they do other than go and question your
       neighbours? Which will be at best quite pointless, because if
       they did knowingly kill your plants they can simply deny it, and
       nobody is going to do a forensic study to disprove their denial:
       and at best will turn innocent well-disposed neighbours against
       you.
       Even if this was the result of poison, it does not by any means
       follow that anyone maliciously poisoned your plants. It may be
       that your neighbour went to poison the plants on his side the
       fence and didn't realise that the poison would drift in the
       wind, and kill stuff on your side. Or he may have assumed  that
       you too saw them as weeds and would be glad to be rid of them.
       Or they may have been a chemical event quite unrelated to
       gardening.
       I second Eilsabunny's and Hmmm's approach of saying "An awful
       thing seems to have happened to kill my flowers! Have you had
       any problems in your garden? Did anything weird happen while I
       was away that might have killed them?"
       #Post#: 35417--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Hello Ducky
       Date: July 27, 2019, 10:56 pm
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       I would absolutely report this to the police if only to have the
       documentation.  Bonus if they come to look at the damage while
       the neighbor who shares the fence happens to be at home and sees
       them.
       
       Anyone bold enough to do something like this (if it was
       deliberate) isn't going to hesitate to take matters into their
       own hands again if something else they don't approve of occurs.
       I learned that from experience.   >:(
       #Post#: 35419--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Isisnin
       Date: July 27, 2019, 11:30 pm
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       You can go to the police station and make a report. You can
       request that they do not investigate and that you just need a
       record of the vandalism. If nothing else happens in the future ,
       the report doesn't matter. If something happens in the future,
       like a repeat incident (heaven forbid!), the report would
       illustrate the on going issue to the police should you do even
       up having to need them to investigate.
       Do you know anything about the neighbors on the other side of
       the fence? They could be the likely culprit. Do they seem to be
       the type? Are they compulsive about their yard? And could they
       even know what you have on the other side of the fence? One
       neighbor has a stockade fence that that doesn't let me see what
       is on the other side. And I'm not so sure seeds could fly up
       that high and over the fence. So do you have any idea who else
       could have done it - or if it was something else?
       Hopefully some roots are still ok and if you leave them there,
       you'll get some flowers next year.
       EDITED to say: "do NOT investigate"
       #Post#: 35422--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Aleko
       Date: July 28, 2019, 12:17 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > I'm not sure seeds could fly up that high and over the fence.
       --- End Quote ---
       Take it from me: they can. My garden is surrounded by
       10-foot-high walls, but Iceland poppies have self-seeded on it
       and are ramping everywhere. Come to that, we regularly have to
       go up on the roof of our 3-storey house and hang out of the
       parapet to clear our rainwater hopper, in which vegetation of
       all kinds will seed and thrive if left unattended. OP should
       take it as read that her thistles will have been merrily
       spreading seed to all her neighbours' gardens.
       #Post#: 35432--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: July 28, 2019, 10:17 am
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       I have been thinking about this post a lot. I can easily see
       scenarios where the neighbor meant no harm or even thought that
       he/she was helping. Assuming that there have not been any
       previous issues, I think I would error on the side of trying to
       work with this neighbor. Talk with the neighbor see if it was
       indeed them and get an understanding of their side. It is
       disappointing that the plants were killed, but it would be
       productive to have a plan moving forward that works for all
       parties.
       #Post#: 35450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Pattycake
       Date: July 28, 2019, 6:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aleko link ---
       >
       > [quote]I'm not sure seeds could fly up that high and over the
       fence.
       --- End Quote ---
       Take it from me: they can. My garden is surrounded by
       10-foot-high walls, but Iceland poppies have self-seeded on it
       and are ramping everywhere. Come to that, we regularly have to
       go up on the roof of our 3-storey house and hang out of the
       parapet to clear our rainwater hopper, in which vegetation of
       all kinds will seed and thrive if left unattended. OP should
       take it as read that her thistles will have been merrily
       spreading seed to all her neighbours' gardens.
       [/quote]
       And birds "deposit" them too. I have what I have discovered to
       be yarrow growing in front of my place. I never had, nor has any
       neighbour, yarrow growing anywhere before. I thought it was a
       weed, because where ever did it come from? Then I bought yarrow
       to put in a pot a couple of years ago, and as it grew, and as
       the front yard weed kept coming back, I realized it was the same
       darn thing! so the only conclusion I can come to is that either
       a bird or some other animal deposited some seeds at some point.
       #Post#: 35454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: Diana805
       Date: July 28, 2019, 9:04 pm
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       Had you ever considered "deadheading" the thistles when they got
       to the seeding stage?  Thus you could enjoy them blooming, AND
       you could help prevent their
       spreading where they are not wanted.  It wouldn't be a perfect
       100% solution, but it would be a step in the direction of
       preventing them from seeding your neighbor's garden.
       #Post#: 35475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Yard, neighbors, courtesy, and possible vandalism
   DIR By: peony
       Date: July 29, 2019, 7:42 am
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       It's your right to keep your property the way you want it, and
       thistles are lovely plants. However, are a few thistle plants
       worth getting on neighbor's bad side? I am thinking that if it
       was deliberate they may have been concerned about them
       spreading. Stilll, they had no right to do what they did and I
       don't think your concern is out of line at all.
       Years back, my mother had a grape vine growing on a fence
       bordering her neighbor's back yard. We didn't think anything of
       it, but one day my mother saw some of the vine had been cut away
       from the fence. It was the neighbor's fence, not my mother's,
       and we thought the neighbor didn't like that the vine was
       twining around her fence. We cut the rest of the grapevine off
       the fence and pruned it for some distance so it wouldn't happen
       again. One day my mother came home to see the offending vine had
       been sheared away down to the roots. For no reason. (Honestly, I
       don't know how it was done without trespassing into the yard,
       unless the neighbor had long orangutan arms. IDK, we've never
       seen her.) My angry nonverbal response was not
       etiquette-approved. But my point is that if your thistles were
       purposely poisoned perhaps it's better to assume they were
       trying to do your a favor and get the "weeds" before they
       spread, and act on that assumption. I would bring over some
       cookies and talk to them first, just casually, to see why. And
       if they claim they were poisoning the noxious weeds for you, you
       know they were not deliberately being nasty. A neighbor feud
       could make the rest of the time you live there very
       uncomfortable.
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