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       #Post#: 34512--------------------------------------------------
       I've just about had it.
       By: prock929 Date: July 14, 2019, 4:27 pm
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       My sisters B & T are on the board of a charity started to honor
       our late sister.  I help out/volunteer at events and
       fundraisers.  I was on the original board until they decided
       that my position (public relations) was not a board position.
       At least it wasn't until about a year ago when they brought in
       an outside person (W) to replace me.  With no warning.  (while i
       was no longer on the board, they usually had a general meeting
       after the board meeting that I was a part of.  For about 2 - 3
       months in a row they had PR on the agenda, but always ran out of
       time before it came up.   When they finally got to that item on
       the agenda, it was to tell me that W was taking over my job and,
       oh yeah, she was now on the board.  TBH I understand me not
       being allowed on the board as it would tilt the board towards
       our family).  But needless to say, my enthusiasm towards the
       charity has cooled significantly during the past year.
       There have been quite a few instances lately where I have
       questioned whether I really want to continue volunteering for
       this organization.  Today was one of those days.
       We had an event at a local car dealership where, for every car
       test driven, the dealership would donate a set amount of money.
       Well, the first thing I did wrong was to bring a bag of nuts to
       snack on.  B was appalled.  "Don't you know people have nut
       allergies?  You're going to have to wash your hands every time
       you eat a handful of nuts" (I was selling T-shirts and
       collecting donations)  So the nuts went away and I had to drive
       over to the deli across the street to pick up something to eat
       (event ran through lunchtime and I am a type 2 diabetic),
       spending money I didn't really have to spend.  (I get the whole
       nut allergy and the fact that there are people who react even to
       residue, but I have to wonder at which point the person with the
       allergy needs to take responsibility for his/her own allergy.  I
       mean, do I have to give up nuts simply because someone with a
       nut allergy might touch something that I touched after I ate
       nuts?)
       Then later on B was dancing to the band we had performing for
       us.  I took a video of her dancing and posted in on Facebook as
       a way to help promote the event.   When she found out, B was
       furious "are you f**** kidding me!  Take it down this instant!"
       (Nevermind that she had been on facebook live earlier in the day
       to promote the event.  It was simply because I hadn't asked
       "permission" to post it.)  I took it down of course, along with
       the other post I had made to promote the event.  (Petty, I know,
       but I was no longer in the mood to promote the event at all.)
       The final (?) straw was when I was asked if I planned on test
       driving a car.  I wasn't really in the mood to test drive (not
       in the market, though that wasn't really a barrier plus it was
       hot and I just wasn't feeling like test driving a car.)  Well,
       when B found out she basically ordered me to test drive a car or
       "put $20 in the donation box".  I donated $20 (that I didn't
       really have) just to shut her up.
       I'm at the point now where I'm not really sure if I want to
       continue helping out when all I seem to do is get harped on for
       minor mistakes (or lapses in judgement.  *if it were anyone else
       making the mistake B would be all nice and helpful not cursing
       them out for making an error).  Add in the fact that I often
       feel out of the loop when it comes to events and such (I'm
       supposed to be on the fundraising committee.  I keep learning
       about new fundraisers, but have yet to attend any meeting where
       said fundraisers are discussed. )  I'm starting to feel like I'm
       not really appreciated at best and ridiculed at worst.  (I
       overheard B today after the FB fiasco complaining about my
       posting the video without her permission.  Like I said, it was
       my mistake, but I really didn't see the harm as it was to
       promote the event and it wasn't really that embarrassing)
       So my question is, how many chances should I give them before
       cutting my losses and donating my talents to places that are
       more appreciative?
       #Post#: 34514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: kckgirl Date: July 14, 2019, 5:53 pm
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       I would already be gone. You don't ask someone to help you with
       an event, and then berate them for everything they do.
       #Post#: 34516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: Hmmm Date: July 14, 2019, 6:01 pm
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       I think it is best that you stop participation. I don't think
       you need to inform them of your decision. I think when asked to
       participate in the next event you just say you are unavailable.
       If you are ever pressured into explaining why you are not
       engaged with the charity, just state that you found you were not
       aligned with the organization and think they would be happier to
       have other volunteers who do meet their standards.
       As an aside, I would be bothered by someone posting a video of
       me on FB without asking my permission first. I would also assume
       that all volunteers who attended would do a test drive to get
       the funds. I understand your not wanting to once you were
       already feeling negative about the organization.
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       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: Hanna Date: July 14, 2019, 6:48 pm
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       I would dial back my involvement to supporting by reposting
       their events and perhaps attending them but not working as a
       volunteer. For now, I would not attend meetings of any type.  If
       you have any pending commitments, I’d fulfill those or else
       notify them they need to find a replacement.  If a sister asks
       why I’d say, “I don’t think this is working and I believe it’s
       because it’s just difficult to work with family, like they say.
       I still support the cause but am going to back off at least for
       now.”
       To anyone else I’d say “it’s a great organization and a really
       worthy cause!” And nothing more.
       ((((Hugs)))) volunteer work can be made so difficult by other
       people, but it sounds so much worse when it’s family being like
       this.
       Can you find another organization or outlet for doing volunteer
       work?
       #Post#: 34522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: lakey Date: July 14, 2019, 8:31 pm
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       Sometimes people just aren't compatible for working together. I
       would pull back from participation in this organization and if
       your sisters ask why, just tell them the truth, that you and
       they aren't a good match for working together.
       Sometimes working with family members is worse than working with
       others because they don't give you the consideration that they
       give to non-family.
       #Post#: 34523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: HenrysMom Date: July 14, 2019, 8:43 pm
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       I think after all you put up with that day, forcing you to spend
       money you don’t have after putting in a full day’s work would be
       the haystack that broke the camel’s back.  They’re obviously do
       not want your involvement in the charity for whatever reason, so
       just stop.  If they complain about you not helping, too damn
       bad.
       Once again, my cynical side rears its ugly head and think
       there’s a reason they don’t want you on the board or knowing
       what they’re doing.  If that’s the case, the further you
       distance yourself from the charity and them, the better for you.
       #Post#: 34526--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: Aleko Date: July 15, 2019, 1:49 am
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       It sounds as though you would be better off just backing out of
       that charity. If that's how things are, the charity would be
       better off too - if there is friction between members of the
       board it will suffer, whoever is in the right.
       And I think your understandable unhappiness at the situation has
       somewhat skewed your judgement of the events of that day. Maybe
       your sister has recently been told a horror story about a
       charity event where a volunteer eating nuts managed to give a
       member of the public an anaphylactic reaction and they were sued
       for a monstrous sum. Or maybe it now is just standard advice in
       your state for volunteers-handing-things-to-the-public. Of
       course it was an annoyance and an expense to you, and maybe yes
       it is unreasonable that charities as well as food-related
       companies should now have to think that way; but I don't think
       her alarm was really as unreasonable as all that.
       And I do think you acted wrongly by posting that video of her
       dancing. Publishing footage of individuals without their
       permission or even their knowledge is bad manners (offensive
       enough that in many countries they can sue you for it). That you
       did it "to promote the event" isn't an excuse, in fact makes it
       worse in her eyes, because PR for the charity is no longer your
       job - the board decided, for whatever reason, to take that role
       back from you and give it to someone else, remember? Posting as
       you did surely made it seem to her that you were trying to
       ignore that and doggedly keep doing the job that is now someone
       else's responsibility.
       And even without the particular history of your being ousted as
       PR head, it's a sad fact that individual members of a volunteer
       group trying to help publicise it off their own bat can be a PR
       nightmare. A couple of decades ago my DH and I ran an
       Anglo-Spanish historical-cultural association: several times
       members came back from an event in Spain and gave enthusiastic
       accounts of the event to a local newspaper or a historical
       group's newsletter containing statements that were quite
       inaccurate / wildly off-message / unthinkingly insulting to our
       Spanish hosts. Fortunately this was before social media took
       off, and the damage done was - as far as we know - very local.
       But we'd look at what they'd written and circulated, and sweat
       blood at what could happen if anyone who mattered got to see it.
       It was a constant worry to us.
       #Post#: 34528--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: prock929 Date: July 15, 2019, 2:23 am
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       OP here
       Yeah, I get it. I was a complete idiot to do those things.   (In
       my defense over the nut issue, I was trying to think of
       something that wasn’t too high in carbs that could sit out
       unrefrigerated for several hours). And I’ll never post anything
       without permission again. And B was perfectly fine with making
       me feel like s***.
       #Post#: 34529--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: prock929 Date: July 15, 2019, 2:34 am
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       FYI my issue wasn’t with whether I was right or wrong (I’ve
       admitted to temporary lapses in judgement) but with the way B
       criticized me for it. I felt like a child especially when she
       ordered me to donate if I wasn’t doing a test drive. (AFAIK,
       test drives by volunteers were voluntary). Nobody else was
       ordered to take a test drive, though most did it anyway. In
       fact, I’m pretty sure our other sister, T, did not test drive
       either. Though I could be wrong as I was in another area and
       basically ignored when B wasn’t lecturing me.
       #Post#: 34531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I've just about had it.
       By: Lkdrymom Date: July 15, 2019, 5:40 am
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       I understand where you are coming from.  You are there to help
       and get criticized for every little thing.  Even if you did do
       anything wrong (and I am not saying you did) to be harshly
       reprimanded rather than politely corrected really stings. I
       experienced something similar while visiting my father's
       assisted living facility yesterday and it makes me not to want
       to ever go back due to the critiques of staff members (You need
       to walk behind him instead of in front of him in case he
       falls...I understand what they are saying but my father won't
       walk without me leading him. He will keep stopping to see where
       I am and we wouldn't get anywhere which is why I lead him...this
       was just one of several reprimands that day).
       If you don't want to discontinue with the charity totally I
       would just be unavailable for the next two events.
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