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       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: Rose Red Date: June 24, 2019, 1:34 pm
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       Maybe you can suggest that all the food shouldn't come out all
       at once when there's an event. Replenish as needed so food that
       was held back and served on Wednesdays aren't gross and picked
       over.
       But appearance still matter so I also suggest fresh food too. A
       full, or almost full, leftover pan of lasagna with a full bowl
       salad and full loaf of bread is fine. A hodgepodge of leftover
       bits and pieces is shoddy and insulting.
       #Post#: 33373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: Lilac Date: June 24, 2019, 4:52 pm
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       To be honest, I would look askance at a pan of lasagna from
       which pieces had been removed at a prior event.  Bacteria gets
       introduced that way and who knows how it was stored or
       maintained.
       This sounds like a small group for which $50 would buy a lot of
       pizza or freshly made pasta or a deli platter from a reputable
       grocer.  I'm all for frugality but save the picked-over food for
       intimate members and serve the best you possibly can to
       newcomers.
       #Post#: 33375--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: chigger Date: June 24, 2019, 5:05 pm
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       Hoenestly, I would tell her what looks like leftover crap and
       just toss it, or if it is able to be salvaged show her how to
       present it.
       #Post#: 33393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: lakey Date: June 24, 2019, 11:58 pm
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       Moist food items, such as layered dips and casseroles,  that
       have been through a potluck look yucky. There is also a food
       safety issue. I wouldn't give it to others. I'd only take it for
       myself if I knew it hadn't been out very long, and the people
       who partook of it served themselves neatly.
       #Post#: 33395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: Aleko Date: June 25, 2019, 2:00 am
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       I have quite a lot of sympathy with Tammy's instinctive
       reluctance to waste food, having been brought up by a mother who
       had been through the London Blitz, wartime rationing, and years
       postwar austerity (and her family were Quakers, frugal on
       principle, even before all of that). Yes, useable leftovers
       should be used: either donate them the same day to some
       charitable use, or let the participants (who have seen how they
       have been put out and dealt with, and can make an informed
       choice about whether they are happy with that) take them home.
       But offering obvious leftovers to guests, which is what
       newcomers to the church essentially are, is blatantly rude.
       #Post#: 34083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: katiekat2009 Date: July 8, 2019, 10:32 am
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       I would dearly love to see an update on this.
       #Post#: 34156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: jazzgirl205 Date: July 9, 2019, 9:28 am
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       Never apologize for wanting things well presented. It makes
       people feel wanted and accepted. I grew up with a mother who did
       a lot of volunteer work which included planning fund raising
       galas. When I was a housewife, I did those things as well.
       Presentation matters!!!! When I joined my present church, we
       gave the choir director a surprise birthday party - nothing
       fancy, but still festive. The lady who volunteered to make the
       cake brought it still in it's stained dented aluminum baking pan
       with no icing or any decoration. The cake looked like she even
       mixed the batter in the same pan.  Everyone else made their
       contributions look nice with platters etc... I wonder if someone
       said something to her. She never volunteered another cake again.
       #Post#: 34177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: vintagegal Date: July 9, 2019, 2:38 pm
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       I volunteer at a food shelf and we would probably throw out
       donations like that. Full pans of prepared food, if the donor is
       known to us and we can be sure it has not experienced unsafe
       conditions, OK.
       #Post#: 34875--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: TootsNYC Date: July 18, 2019, 4:34 pm
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       [quote author=jazzgirl205 link=topic=1189.msg34156#msg34156
       date=1562682493]
       Never apologize for wanting things well presented. It makes
       people feel wanted and accepted. I grew up with a mother who did
       a lot of volunteer work which included planning fund raising
       galas. When I was a housewife, I did those things as well.
       Presentation matters!!!! When I joined my present church, we
       gave the choir director a surprise birthday party - nothing
       fancy, but still festive. The lady who volunteered to make the
       cake brought it still in it's stained dented aluminum baking pan
       with no icing or any decoration. The cake looked like she even
       mixed the batter in the same pan.  Everyone else made their
       contributions look nice with platters etc... I wonder if someone
       said something to her. She never volunteered another cake again.
       [/quote]
       Yes!
       My daughter participated in a youth-group/confirmation
       instruction thing that was spread across several churches. In
       the very first gathering, which was to start at 6pm (which meant
       she left us at 4:45), there was no food. Nothing. Nada. Not even
       popcorn.  I'd assumed
       By the time they got around to our church, I figured I'd show
       them how it should be.
       At Women's Ministries, we had tablecloths, quiche, fruit, etc.
       So I made FOOD FOR DAYS.
       I figured it was really important to tell these
       soon-to-be-adult-members of our church that we were glad they
       were there.
       The food, and presentation, were an important part of it.
       #Post#: 34894--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wednesday night church dinner concerns
       By: Chez Miriam Date: July 19, 2019, 6:23 am
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       I used to live near a friend who was on a similarly (tightly)
       restricted budget, and we each agreed to have meals (dinner
       parties?) at each other's homes without spending a huge amount
       on the food.
       We each, in our own ways, made the evening as special as
       possible: candles, mood-lighting, best china, etc, etc, etc.  I
       remember those eveninsg so much more fondly than the meal we ate
       overlooking Notre Dame cathedral in Paris where the
       table-setting seemed thrown together*.
       Judgemental?  Most definitely, but when people are in the
       promotion industries, the message they are sending must be less
       unwitting, surely?
       * I know they had good glassware they could have brought out, as
       we contributed to that stock handsomely for their wedding gift
       the previous year.
       If you want the church young people to feel they don't matter,
       giving them leftovers is a perfect way to convey that message.
       :'(
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