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       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: Twik Date: June 17, 2019, 3:51 pm
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       [quote author=NyaChan link=topic=1186.msg32831#msg32831
       date=1560459763]
       Hi everyone, we were working on neighborhood administrative
       things at the meeting, so wveryone’s Glass was on the coffee
       table and we were knee to knee.  No one did ask for a refill,
       and the host preeempted it by asking to top up their glasses
       when they were low. Since no one else asked for more, I felt
       weird being the only one needing to ask and kept quiet because
       really it’s just a drink and I can have that at home if I want
       more.  There might be something to the gender thing because the
       other woman got up to get a napkin and he made her sit down
       because “ladies don’t get up to get their own napkins in this
       house” which I thought was a little weird though I think he
       meant it gallantly?
       [/quote]
       Oh, that is indeed weird. Perhaps he believes that ladies only
       taste demon liquor, not imbibe?
       #Post#: 33020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: hovlane Date: June 17, 2019, 8:20 pm
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       It's not just weird, it's sexist. Unless he said to one of the
       men "gentlemen don't get up to get their own napkins in this
       house" and 20$ says he wouldn't have.
       As for the wine, I'd have spoken up.
       #Post#: 33043--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: jpcher Date: June 18, 2019, 4:00 pm
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       It is odd behavior . . .
       Was your glass ever completely empty?
       How did the beer drinker get his (bottle, can, glass)
       replenished?
       You said that this meeting was for "neighborhood administrative
       things" has the group met before? Are you new to the group?
       Not that these questions have any real bearing on his behavior
       (rude, IMO), but these minor details might help us give you more
       grounded answers.
       Me? I would have had no problem with saying "Oh, that was
       delicious. May I please have another glass?" while he was
       pouring out.
       #Post#: 33299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: NyaChan Date: June 23, 2019, 2:00 pm
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       [quote author=jpcher link=topic=1186.msg33043#msg33043
       date=1560891644]
       It is odd behavior . . .
       Was your glass ever completely empty?
       How did the beer drinker get his (bottle, can, glass)
       replenished?
       You said that this meeting was for "neighborhood administrative
       things" has the group met before? Are you new to the group?
       Not that these questions have any real bearing on his behavior
       (rude, IMO), but these minor details might help us give you more
       grounded answers.
       Me? I would have had no problem with saying "Oh, that was
       delicious. May I please have another glass?" while he was
       pouring out.
       [/quote]
       Sorry for taking so long to respond but we had a huge dustup
       about ethics and reimbursements with my HOA and I forgot about
       this. I might actually post a generic hypo of it to see what
       people think because right now I feel like I’m in the twilight
       zone with no one else agreeing that this is problem.
       Back to the wine thing - It was an informal ( read non compliant
       with our bylaws)  HOA meeting.  My glass did go empty and I also
       remembered that at one point the host poured some schnapps and
       had all the guys smell it and taste it but didn’t offer it to
       the women.  At the time I thought he was trying not to interrupt
       us because we were in the middle of drafting language for a rule
       change.    I actually had to meet with one of the men present
       who is from Eastern Europe to talk about the problem that came
       up and brought scotch with me because someone had told me that
       is a thing to do to bond.  He started laughing when I poured us
       a couple fingers and said, “Hahaha! and Neighbor gave you wine!”
       
       After the problems, I don’t think I’ll be invited back for that
       sort of meeting again, but I do like the wording that was
       suggested here and will keep it in mind.
       #Post#: 33378--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: jpcher Date: June 24, 2019, 5:35 pm
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       Sorry things didn't work out with you being on the committee,
       please let us know what the kerfuffle was. Maybe we can help you
       get things back in order.
       My MIL was Chair on her HOA committee and the stories she told
       me about conflicts, people not understanding why the rules are
       in place, residents wanting to change things just because (then
       why did you move into an HOA with specific rules?) She did it
       for about 5 year then said "enough." She still attends the
       meetings when there's something important to her on the agenda,
       but doesn't want to get back on the committee.
       Maybe you don't want to go back as well?
       Funny story about the scotch. That's the way to schmooze! LOL!
       ;D
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       Re: Host pouring wine
       By: LifeOnPluto Date: June 29, 2019, 12:35 am
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       That is really strange. My first thought was that perhaps the
       host was a bit sexist (eg "men are bigger, and handle their
       liquor! Poor dainty ladies can't - it just goes straight to
       their heads!") but then I remembered you said he gave the other
       woman a full serving of white wine.
       Normally I think it's perfectly fine to speak up and say "Hey
       Bob, could I get a top-up too?" But I totally get how you might
       not have felt comfortable doing that - especially since he
       wasn't asking who wanted a top-up, just pre-emptively filling
       the other guests' glasses.
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