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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: Darkprincess Date: May 16, 2018, 11:31 am
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       This sounds like the type of operation my ex-sister in law used
       to run. She was never set up as an official charity or had any
       type of licensing. She would post all sorts of sob stories
       online and raise money, most of which never made it to the
       stated purpose. Sure, she helped a few animals but in reality
       she was using the money people donated as her income.
       I would politely and unobtrusively leave the group. Assume that
       you have learned a good lesson and find another group to help.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: guest282 Date: May 16, 2018, 1:14 pm
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       Sounds like a scam to me.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: lakey Date: May 16, 2018, 2:02 pm
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       I would consider this a lesson learned. I limit my donations to
       organizations that I am familiar with. I also like to keep my
       donations local. I and my friends have adopted dogs from rescues
       from  that I know do a good job. I've been to their locations.
       My sister has adopted cats. There is an organization here that
       provides low cost neutering.
       Donating to someone from Facebook that you aren't familiar with
       is risky. The defensiveness and ranting shows a lack of maturity
       and professionalism. They might be similar to darkprincess's
       sister. They might be in over their head. They might be flakes.
       They might be a scam. I know one thing, there are a lot of good
       cat rescues out there. Before you donate or adopt a cat visit a
       couple of them.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: Miki Date: May 16, 2018, 7:33 pm
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       [quote author=Bada link=topic=117.msg958#msg958 date=1526441735]
       Are they an American based 501c3?  They actually have to obey
       restrictions placed on donations (This must be used for X cat
       not Y cat.  Or must be used for Z service not Q.)  I'm not sure
       if their status gets revoked or what, but it's a Big Deal from
       my experience in non-profits.
       I agree with those who say it's probably not worth defending
       yourself against the dog-piling.
       [/quote]
       This is what I always try to check.  I give every penny I can to
       rescues, and often some free time.  But there are some horrible
       ones out there that just "title" themselves a  rescue group.
       Some use it as a way to breed and sell kittens on craigslist,
       for example.
       I don't know what to suggest, but if this was me, I'd at least
       do a little research googling the name, or checking to see if
       they have their own website.  Also (sadly) petfinder can be
       guilty of listing some of these people on their site as if
       they're legit.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: guest282 Date: May 18, 2018, 9:16 am
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       Agreed. If someone says they are running a charity or nonprofit,
       it's best to check Charity Navigator to see if they really are
       one. Filing a 501(c) isn't that difficult; I know teenagers who
       have done it. If they haven't done this simple task, they are
       defrauding their patrons and the government.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: dani321 Date: May 18, 2018, 11:28 am
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       I think that anyone running a business page, whether non-profit
       or not, would be wise to be gracious. A better answer to your
       question regarding a refund could have been something like
       "Kitty will still need and receive treatment, along with Other
       Kitties here at CR, it's just that this particular fundraiser
       had to be taken down; we would love to use your generous
       donation towards XYZ, but of course if you would prefer a
       refund, please send us a private message/email and we will take
       care of it". I'm sure there's a better way than that to phrase
       it, but I'd think that someone running a non-profit would learn
       how to graciously ask for donations and how to graciously
       respond to their donators' questions or concerns.
       This one is tough because of course you don't want the animals
       to suffer, but maybe there is a better rescue near you that is
       doing a better job, and you could donate to them? I'd love to
       respond to the Facebook thread and say that you'd prefer not to
       donate to an organization ran by someone who is so volatile and
       rude, but of course everyone else is right in their advice not
       to engage.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: Victoria Date: May 18, 2018, 12:22 pm
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       I took the advice here and ended up unliking/unfollowing the
       page and it's lowered my stress level. I didn't want to keep
       getting notifications about it and getting my blood pressure up.
       The last time I checked it had devolved into an argument between
       people who essentially agreed with me and CR, which kept
       spiraling into rants about tangentially related topics.
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       Re: Hostile/Unprofessional Rescue
       By: pierrotlunaire0 Date: May 19, 2018, 1:02 pm
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       I think a lot of these cases are people who start out with good
       intentions and no idea of what they are doing, whether it's how
       to best care for the animals or how to run an organization.
       They quickly get overwhelmed, start flailing about, and end up
       causing more harm to the animals they started to rescue.
       It's good that you stepped away from what could be a real mess.
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