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       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: gramma dishes Date: May 18, 2019, 10:07 am
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       [quote author=VorFemme link=topic=1137.msg31328#msg31328
       date=1558106107]
       I have walked into bathrooms with unflushed toilets (evidence of
       toilet tissue or other solids, best not described).  The self
       flushing toilets are not 100% foolproof nor have all toilets
       magically become self flushing.  But not many people are
       checking for a toilet lever before leaving the cubicle.
       I flush those and go to a different cubicle (if there is room
       and the odors have lingered).   ...
       [/quote]
       Please tell me how.  I've been the poor hapless soul who 'goes'
       and leaves paper in the bowl and then when I leave ... nothing!
       Nothing happens.  The darned thing doesn't flush.
       Some have a secondary button or even a floor pedal to use when
       the automatic flush stalls, but some either don't or I can't
       find it.  Waving one hand across the little red light does
       nothing.  So how do you force flush these things?
       #Post#: 31397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: HenrysMom Date: May 18, 2019, 8:52 pm
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       [quote author=Kimpossible link=topic=1137.msg31340#msg31340
       date=1558122109]
       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1137.msg31312#msg31312
       date=1558097540]
       [quote author=TeamBhakta link=topic=1137.msg31103#msg31103
       date=1557877230]
       That woman really wouldn't like me. If someone is holding a
       phone conversation in the restroom & they act annoyed with the
       noise, guess who'll flush the toilet more than once.  :-*
       [/quote]
       In my pre-eHell days, I've walked into the loos at work and
       heard someone in one of the cubicles huff on the phone that
       "someone's just walked in, ugh" as though I was deliberately
       interrupting their privacy, and that prompted me to go into all
       the empty cubicles and flush all the loos.
       I might not do that now.
       [/quote]
       Or shouted "Ugh *Karen! Could you give us a courtesy flush,
       please??"
       [/quote]
       Can I just say that I love you both? ;D ;D ;D
       #Post#: 31402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Pattycake Date: May 18, 2019, 10:19 pm
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       [quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1137.msg31375#msg31375
       date=1558192042]
       [quote author=VorFemme link=topic=1137.msg31328#msg31328
       date=1558106107]
       I have walked into bathrooms with unflushed toilets (evidence of
       toilet tissue or other solids, best not described).  The self
       flushing toilets are not 100% foolproof nor have all toilets
       magically become self flushing.  But not many people are
       checking for a toilet lever before leaving the cubicle.
       I flush those and go to a different cubicle (if there is room
       and the odors have lingered).   ...
       [/quote]
       Please tell me how.  I've been the poor hapless soul who 'goes'
       and leaves paper in the bowl and then when I leave ... nothing!
       Nothing happens.  The darned thing doesn't flush.
       Some have a secondary button or even a floor pedal to use when
       the automatic flush stalls, but some either don't or I can't
       find it.  Waving one hand across the little red light does
       nothing.  So how do you force flush these things?
       [/quote]
       I don't know for some of them either! On the other hand, I have
       had them flush just before I sat, while I was sitting, and as I
       was exiting the stall, and this was at one visit! - so much for
       saving water!
       #Post#: 31411--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: andi Date: May 19, 2019, 11:37 am
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       All of the “self flush“ toilets that I have used have had a
       button on the side that you can press to force it to flush.
       That’s in grocery stores, airports, restaurants and so forth.
       I am of the opinion that if you are having any kind of phone
       conversation in a bathroom, you better be prepared for regular
       bathroom noises. That’s just the way the real world works.
       #Post#: 31428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: NFPwife Date: May 19, 2019, 5:11 pm
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       [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1137.msg31268#msg31268
       date=1558042924]
       Why do so many people have phone conversations on speaker in
       public? Did I read this correctly? The conversation was one in
       which both parties could be heard?
       I was visiting a friend in the hospital recently and one of the
       other patients was having a phone conversation on speaker, in a
       very busy ward, about 20 feet away, and had to up the volume of
       the person they were talking too, meaning I had to close the
       door to the room my friend and the other person were occupying,
       so we can talk.
       I’ve noticed this on transit as well. I can see the odd person
       doing this because there is always the odd person.
       But there are so many people doing this! What’s the appeal? It
       seems to me, even if you put etiquette aside, it’s the most
       inconvenient way to have a personal conversation in public on
       your phone.
       Washroom or no washroom.
       [/quote]
       I'd be willing to bet that it's Facetime or another video chat.
       I've seen a lot more speaker calls and when I catch a glimpse of
       the screen it's video chat. Or the way the person is holding the
       phone/ postured is a clue.
       I saw someone video chatting in an airline club. She was
       speaking pretty low and when I looked up she actually flashed
       the screen towards me kind of apologetically. On the screen was
       the cutest pre-schooler, who looked like he was just out of the
       bath and heading to bed. I could see why she'd video chat.
       (Still she could've used a headset, but, oh well.)
       That incident and this thread reminded me of something that
       happened about 20 yrs ago. My co-workers and I carried business
       cell phones for on-call purposes. Christy and I were meeting
       Winnie for lunch. We arrive, Winnie was early and bseated and in
       a loud speaker phone conversation with her son. Christy and I
       say silently until she finished because any conversation we had
       would have been disruptive to her call.
       Winnie finishes and says to us, rather self-righteously, "I
       always talk on speaker in public because it's rude not to."
       Christy and I are saying, "What?! No. If anything it's ruder."
       Winnie insisted that it's polite because if she was talking into
       the phone ppl would only hear her side of the conversation and
       this they'd "always wonder" what the other person was saying. We
       tried to use some logic and reasoning with her, but she was
       insistent that speaker conversations are more polite. Christy
       and I were doubled over laughing. We were a little heap in the
       booth. I could call Christy right now, on speaker, and say,
       "You're on speaker because it's the polite thing to do," and
       she'd remember and crack up. It was that absurd and memorable.
       #Post#: 31439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: TootsNYC Date: May 19, 2019, 10:17 pm
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       [quote]Winnie finishes and says to us, rather self-righteously,
       "I always talk on speaker in public because it's rude not to."
       Christy and I are saying, "What?! No. If anything it's ruder."
       Winnie insisted that it's polite because if she was talking into
       the phone ppl would only hear her side of the conversation and
       this they'd "always wonder" what the other person was saying. We
       tried to use some logic and reasoning with her, but she was
       insistent that speaker conversations are more polite. [/quote]
       There's a WONDERFUL scene in one of Alexander McCall Smith's
       "No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency" books in which the assistant
       comes to dinner at her boss's house and gets there early and
       says how this is so polite.
       And resists all arguments to the contrary.
       I have heard people complain about how jarring it can be to hear
       one side of a conversation--but I think Winnie has missed the
       point: We don't want to hear ANY of it.
       #Post#: 31467--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: JeanFromBNA Date: May 20, 2019, 12:55 pm
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       [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1137.msg31268#msg31268
       date=1558042924]
       Why do so many people have phone conversations on speaker in
       public? Did I read this correctly? The conversation was one in
       which both parties could be heard?
       I was visiting a friend in the hospital recently and one of the
       other patients was having a phone conversation on speaker, in a
       very busy ward, about 20 feet away, and had to up the volume of
       the person they were talking too, meaning I had to close the
       door to the room my friend and the other person were occupying,
       so we can talk.
       I’ve noticed this on transit as well. I can see the odd person
       doing this because there is always the odd person.
       But there are so many people doing this! What’s the appeal? It
       seems to me, even if you put etiquette aside, it’s the most
       inconvenient way to have a personal conversation in public on
       your phone.
       Washroom or no washroom.
       [/quote]
       I don't use the speaker in public, but I do in private because
       it's easier for me to hear. If I'm in public or can be
       overheard, I use my headset.
       #Post#: 31506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: NewHomeowner Date: May 21, 2019, 5:32 am
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       [quote author=Pattycake link=topic=1137.msg31402#msg31402
       date=1558235991]
       [quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1137.msg31375#msg31375
       date=1558192042]
       [quote author=VorFemme link=topic=1137.msg31328#msg31328
       date=1558106107]
       I have walked into bathrooms with unflushed toilets (evidence of
       toilet tissue or other solids, best not described).  The self
       flushing toilets are not 100% foolproof nor have all toilets
       magically become self flushing.  But not many people are
       checking for a toilet lever before leaving the cubicle.
       I flush those and go to a different cubicle (if there is room
       and the odors have lingered).   ...
       [/quote]
       Please tell me how.  I've been the poor hapless soul who 'goes'
       and leaves paper in the bowl and then when I leave ... nothing!
       Nothing happens.  The darned thing doesn't flush.
       Some have a secondary button or even a floor pedal to use when
       the automatic flush stalls, but some either don't or I can't
       find it.  Waving one hand across the little red light does
       nothing.  So how do you force flush these things?
       [/quote]
       I don't know for some of them either! On the other hand, I have
       had them flush just before I sat, while I was sitting, and as I
       was exiting the stall, and this was at one visit! - so much for
       saving water!
       [/quote]
       There's a lady at my job place who flushes about every 30
       seconds while she's in the stall.  I suspect she's very
       embarrassed by the noise that natural things cause.  I
       understand that.  It happens.
       #Post#: 31605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: VorFemme Date: May 22, 2019, 12:46 pm
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       [quote author=gramma dishes link=topic=1137.msg31375#msg31375
       date=1558192042]
       [quote author=VorFemme link=topic=1137.msg31328#msg31328
       date=1558106107]
       I have walked into bathrooms with unflushed toilets (evidence of
       toilet tissue or other solids, best not described).  The self
       flushing toilets are not 100% foolproof nor have all toilets
       magically become self flushing.  But not many people are
       checking for a toilet lever before leaving the cubicle.
       I flush those and go to a different cubicle (if there is room
       and the odors have lingered).   ...
       [/quote]
       Please tell me how.  I've been the poor hapless soul who 'goes'
       and leaves paper in the bowl and then when I leave ... nothing!
       Nothing happens.  The darned thing doesn't flush.
       Some have a secondary button or even a floor pedal to use when
       the automatic flush stalls, but some either don't or I can't
       find it.  Waving one hand across the little red light does
       nothing.  So how do you force flush these things?
       [/quote]
       Most but not all have a pencil eraser sized button on the side
       or a small orange slice shaped place on the top to press.
       Due to being hypothyroid and my body temperature being cooler
       than the average, I have learned to look for these, in case I
       don’t trip an infra-red sensor.  Which has happened...
       It’s the toilet full of tissue paper, solid waste, with a
       cigarette butt in it that tends to leave me wondering if the
       failure to flush was accidental or on purpose.  I know that I
       can’t be the only person out there with a thyroid condition...
       #Post#: 31624--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: gramma dishes Date: May 22, 2019, 4:53 pm
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       Thanks.   I know about the button, but some just do not have
       one.  Or maybe they do and I'm just really bad at sleuthing out
       their locations.  Didn't know about the orange slice.  I'll look
       for that next time it happens.
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