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       #Post#: 31147--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Songbird Date: May 15, 2019, 11:12 am
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       It's possible she was embarrassed rather than annoyed. As I
       said, no words ere exchanged.
       when I need privacy for a phone conversation I tend to use one
       of the conference rooms, and at that time of day there would
       have been several empty conference rooms available.
       #Post#: 31149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Victoria Date: May 15, 2019, 11:24 am
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       [quote author=Songbird link=topic=1137.msg31147#msg31147
       date=1557936759]
       It's possible she was embarrassed rather than annoyed. As I
       said, no words ere exchanged.
       when I need privacy for a phone conversation I tend to use one
       of the conference rooms, and at that time of day there would
       have been several empty conference rooms available.
       [/quote]
       This is what I do, or I stay in my office. I do think that after
       hours people tend to anticipate being alone, but you're not
       entitled to that.
       #Post#: 31157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Kimberami Date: May 15, 2019, 1:38 pm
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       It would be unreasonable to expect privacy in a common area.
       #Post#: 31268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Contrarian Date: May 16, 2019, 4:42 pm
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       Why do so many people have phone conversations on speaker in
       public? Did I read this correctly? The conversation was one in
       which both parties could be heard?
       I was visiting a friend in the hospital recently and one of the
       other patients was having a phone conversation on speaker, in a
       very busy ward, about 20 feet away, and had to up the volume of
       the person they were talking too, meaning I had to close the
       door to the room my friend and the other person were occupying,
       so we can talk.
       I’ve noticed this on transit as well. I can see the odd person
       doing this because there is always the odd person.
       But there are so many people doing this! What’s the appeal? It
       seems to me, even if you put etiquette aside, it’s the most
       inconvenient way to have a personal conversation in public on
       your phone.
       Washroom or no washroom.
       #Post#: 31312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Chez Miriam Date: May 17, 2019, 7:52 am
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       [quote author=TeamBhakta link=topic=1137.msg31103#msg31103
       date=1557877230]
       That woman really wouldn't like me. If someone is holding a
       phone conversation in the restroom & they act annoyed with the
       noise, guess who'll flush the toilet more than once.  :-*
       [/quote]
       In my pre-eHell days, I've walked into the loos at work and
       heard someone in one of the cubicles huff on the phone that
       "someone's just walked in, ugh" as though I was deliberately
       interrupting their privacy, and that prompted me to go into all
       the empty cubicles and flush all the loos.
       I might not do that now.
       #Post#: 31319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Songbird Date: May 17, 2019, 8:47 am
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       [quote author=Contrarian link=topic=1137.msg31268#msg31268
       date=1558042924]
       Why do so many people have phone conversations on speaker in
       public? Did I read this correctly? The conversation was one in
       which both parties could be heard?
       I was visiting a friend in the hospital recently and one of the
       other patients was having a phone conversation on speaker, in a
       very busy ward, about 20 feet away, and had to up the volume of
       the person they were talking too, meaning I had to close the
       door to the room my friend and the other person were occupying,
       so we can talk.
       I’ve noticed this on transit as well. I can see the odd person
       doing this because there is always the odd person.
       But there are so many people doing this! What’s the appeal? It
       seems to me, even if you put etiquette aside, it’s the most
       inconvenient way to have a personal conversation in public on
       your phone.
       Washroom or no washroom.
       [/quote]
       Agreed.
       #Post#: 31327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: oogyda Date: May 17, 2019, 9:51 am
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       YDD has been known to join in those conversations.  She's a
       cheeky little devil.  Sometimes I wish I could be more like her.
       #Post#: 31328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: VorFemme Date: May 17, 2019, 10:15 am
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       I have walked into bathrooms with unflushed toilets (evidence of
       toilet tissue or other solids, best not described).  The self
       flushing toilets are not 100% foolproof nor have all toilets
       magically become self flushing.  But not many people are
       checking for a toilet lever before leaving the cubicle.
       I flush those and go to a different cubicle (if there is room
       and the odors have lingered).
       There have been times when I flushed three toilets before
       finding one that didn’t have unpleasant memories lingering in
       the air...
       Or I might find that the toilet had no remaining tissue in the
       cubicle...and I would go to another cubicle due to the lack of
       supplies...if anyone was on the phone...not my fault.
       #Post#: 31333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Contrarian Date: May 17, 2019, 11:26 am
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       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1137.msg31312#msg31312
       date=1558097540]
       [quote author=TeamBhakta link=topic=1137.msg31103#msg31103
       date=1557877230]
       That woman really wouldn't like me. If someone is holding a
       phone conversation in the restroom & they act annoyed with the
       noise, guess who'll flush the toilet more than once.  :-*
       [/quote]
       In my pre-eHell days, I've walked into the loos at work and
       heard someone in one of the cubicles huff on the phone that
       "someone's just walked in, ugh" as though I was deliberately
       interrupting their privacy, and that prompted me to go into all
       the empty cubicles and flush all the loos.
       I might not do that now.
       [/quote]
       I completely understand this reaction because I’ve had it and
       still continue to have it so many times.  Someone gets huffy and
       irritated when another innocently walks in, sits down, stands
       up, yawns, clears their throat, etc. And the innocent person
       thinks “wtf”?!
       And sometimes the first person is generally resting as though
       the second person has purposely done something to them. I am
       forever self conscious about throat clearing, because one time
       when I cleared my throat because it was a bit phlemy, I
       accidentally horribly offended someone who was in the same
       public space I was in and for some reason decided I was clearing
       my throat “at her”. I hadn’t known what she was up to or cared,
       but she laid into me like I was the rudest person on the planet.
       However, sometimes the huffy “ugh” reaction is internal. It’s a
       huffy, ugh, I can’t get a break today, I can’t find the right
       place, and they are not blaming us but themselves.
       But it can, and has, gone either way! So whose to know? So now,
       if I’ve done nothing wrong or rather my actions had nothing to
       do with the other, I just ignore them.
       But I also try not to sigh or scrunch up my eyebrows, or huff
       when someone innocently interrupts.  My eyebrows are a struggle
       though, they are always scrunched. I’m always wondering what’s
       going on! Am I overreacting? Are they? Is there anything to
       react too? Scrunch, scrunch, scrunch. :(
       #Post#: 31340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: office restroom etiquette issue
       By: Kimberami Date: May 17, 2019, 2:41 pm
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       [quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=1137.msg31312#msg31312
       date=1558097540]
       [quote author=TeamBhakta link=topic=1137.msg31103#msg31103
       date=1557877230]
       That woman really wouldn't like me. If someone is holding a
       phone conversation in the restroom & they act annoyed with the
       noise, guess who'll flush the toilet more than once.  :-*
       [/quote]
       In my pre-eHell days, I've walked into the loos at work and
       heard someone in one of the cubicles huff on the phone that
       "someone's just walked in, ugh" as though I was deliberately
       interrupting their privacy, and that prompted me to go into all
       the empty cubicles and flush all the loos.
       I might not do that now.
       [/quote]
       Or shouted "Ugh *Karen! Could you give us a courtesy flush,
       please??"
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