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       Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Twik Date: May 13, 2019, 3:13 pm
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       interesting article today
  HTML http://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/weddings/a-best-man-started-a-break-up-bet-at-his-best-friends-wedding-and-it-did-not-end-well/ar-AABithl?ocid=ientp<br
       />about a best man who, during his speech, announced he was
       running a pool about when the happy couple would get divorced.
       He thinks he was being a great bro - if they stay together long
       enough, they get the money! What a cool prize!
       Strangely, the non-bro members of the wedding are furious at
       him, and he's confused and perplexed as to why.
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       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: May 13, 2019, 3:37 pm
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       [quote author=Twik link=topic=1132.msg30980#msg30980
       date=1557778435]
       interesting article today
  HTML http://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/weddings/a-best-man-started-a-break-up-bet-at-his-best-friends-wedding-and-it-did-not-end-well/ar-AABithl?ocid=ientp<br
       />about a best man who, during his speech, announced he was
       running a pool about when the happy couple would get divorced.
       He thinks he was being a great bro - if they stay together long
       enough, they get the money! What a cool prize!
       Strangely, the non-bro members of the wedding are furious at
       him, and he's confused and perplexed as to why.
       [/quote]
       All I can hope, is that this dope remains forever single. >:(
       #Post#: 30993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: lakey Date: May 13, 2019, 4:43 pm
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       Sometimes humor or "bro" humor is actually thinly veiled
       hostility. This is nasty, and he'd have to be a complete idiot
       to not see how nasty it is. I can't imagine how my relatives
       would have reacted if anyone had made a speech or toast like
       that at a wedding. Fortunately the bride, bride's family, and
       the groom didn't give him a pass on his idiot behavior.
       #Post#: 31091--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Thitpualso Date: May 14, 2019, 4:58 pm
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       Humor in Wedding toasts has to be carefully thought out and it
       must be gentle.  When Nephew 2 married, nephew 1 (who was the
       best man) made a lovely speech.  He wished the HC everything you
       would expect a loving brother to say and added at the end,
       ‘Also, thanks for getting married first.  That’s taken a lot of
       pressure off me’.
       That went down well with the guests Even the parents of the two
       brothers laughed heartily.
       The lottery described in the link was, in my mind, the exact
       opposite.  Did anyone who contributed to the pool stop to think
       about how the HC would feel about their marriage being treated
       like a basketball team in March Madness?  Did anyone really
       believe that the money would be carefully preserved for 20
       years?
       I think not.
       It’s good that there was blow-back on this. The idiot Best Man
       deserved what he got.
       #Post#: 31110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: MinMom3 Date: May 14, 2019, 8:23 pm
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       [quote author=lakey link=topic=1132.msg30993#msg30993
       date=1557783835]
       Sometimes humor or "bro" humor is actually thinly veiled
       hostility. This is nasty, and he'd have to be a complete idiot
       to not see how nasty it is. I can't imagine how my relatives
       would have reacted if anyone had made a speech or toast like
       that at a wedding. Fortunately the bride, bride's family, and
       the groom didn't give him a pass on his idiot behavior.
       [/quote]
       I'd say rather not-at-all veiled hostility!  Was the best many
       angry that the bride 'stole' his buddy?
       #Post#: 31120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Hanna Date: May 14, 2019, 9:58 pm
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       So he’s planning on holding onto $3k for 22 years then giving it
       to them? Right.  (Anyone calculated the future value of that
       yet?)
       Also, what kind of friends do these people have that so many
       people went along with this?! I’d venture to say any one of us
       here would have handed the guy’s head to him before he gave the
       speech if we’d been at that wedding and asked to bet.
       #Post#: 31124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Chez Miriam Date: May 15, 2019, 3:47 am
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       [quote author=Hanna link=topic=1132.msg31120#msg31120
       date=1557889102]
       So he’s planning on holding onto $3k for 22 years then giving it
       to them? Right.  (Anyone calculated the future value of that
       yet?)
       Also, what kind of friends do these people have that so many
       people went along with this?! I’d venture to say any one of us
       here would have handed the guy’s head to him before he gave the
       speech if we’d been at that wedding and asked to bet.
       [/quote]
       We've been to/been invited to a couple of weddings where we
       privately wondered how long the marriage would last, and we most
       definitely would have shut that down immediately.  What my
       husband and I discuss in the privacy of our own homes is not
       necessarily what we say in public.  In public, we would wish the
       happy couple all the very best and say nothing about predicted
       longevity of a marriage; it's absolutely none of our business!
       I heard a best man speech where he told of the groom eating
       "pineapple chunks" when falling-down drunk.  I hadn't a clue
       what was funny about that, so had to ask my (then) boyfriend;
       turns out "pineapple chunks" was a slang term/euphemism for the
       freshener blocks that live in the bottom of urinals. :o :o :o
       I thought that speech was in very bad taste!  I suspect I may
       have heckled the best man in the story.
       #Post#: 31177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: TootsNYC Date: May 15, 2019, 9:36 pm
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       I remember being really offended on the couple's behalf when the
       priest at their wedding made a joke about having to chase the
       groom to drag him back to the altar.
       IN THE HOMILY.
       It was just so rude.
       (and inaccurate; the groom was incandescently enthusiastic)
       #Post#: 31242--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Gellchom Date: May 16, 2019, 2:28 pm
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       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1132.msg31177#msg31177
       date=1557974167]
       I remember being really offended on the couple's behalf when the
       priest at their wedding made a joke about having to chase the
       groom to drag him back to the altar.
       IN THE HOMILY.
       It was just so rude.
       (and inaccurate; the groom was incandescently enthusiastic)
       [/quote]
       I don't know why people still think that this tired, sexist
       trope of men being roped into marriage is funny anyway, let
       alone in such a screamingly inappropriate context.  I remember
       on an old board someone saying that they loved to give a pair of
       running shoes as an engagement gift to grooms.  I cannot imagine
       any couple not finding that incredibly insulting.
       #Post#: 31264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would this qualify as wedding guest Darwinism?
       By: Hanna Date: May 16, 2019, 4:39 pm
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       [quote author=Gellchom link=topic=1132.msg31242#msg31242
       date=1558034914]
       [quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=1132.msg31177#msg31177
       date=1557974167]
       I remember being really offended on the couple's behalf when the
       priest at their wedding made a joke about having to chase the
       groom to drag him back to the altar.
       IN THE HOMILY.
       It was just so rude.
       (and inaccurate; the groom was incandescently enthusiastic)
       [/quote]
       I don't know why people still think that this tired, sexist
       trope of men being roped into marriage is funny anyway, let
       alone in such a screamingly inappropriate context.  I remember
       on an old board someone saying that they loved to give a pair of
       running shoes as an engagement gift to grooms.  I cannot imagine
       any couple not finding that incredibly insulting.
       [/quote]
       I was at a wedding where the same joke was made to the bride! It
       was honestly hysterical but we totally raised our own eyebrows
       and we’re pretty shocked. The groom seemed to get a kick out of
       it.
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