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#Post#: 28912--------------------------------------------------
Disrespect?
By: Kimberami Date: April 4, 2019, 8:18 am
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Just for some background, I work as a support person (non-sworn)
in law enforcement department. I am in department A. Coworker
works in department B. Coworker is known to be a show
off/braggart. We both fall under the same line of command, we
both report to the same Captain, Major, Chief, etc. Coworker is
in no way my superior. Further background, our bosses aren't in
the office this morning.
When I walked into work today, a coworker screamed a directive
down the hall at me. He was about 20 feet away from me, and he
screamed at the top of his lungs. The directive was completely
useless because it lacked any information that would be useful
for me to do anything to assist him. I feel that he only did
this to show what an important person he is. What is worse, he
had a group of new hires with him. Now they may think that this
is the proper way of addressing a member of support staff. I
looked at him and walked away. I didn't feel that it would have
done me any good to address the matter with him in the hallway
early in the morning. I feel very disrespected. If our mutual
boss had been in the office, Coworker would have never yelled at
me like that.
Am I being too sensitive? Would you bring this up to your
supervisor? Would you have said something to Coworker in the
moment? Would you say something to Coworker later?
The funny thing is when we were cross-training the new hires a
few days ago, I told them that they should take care to show
respect to their support staff. I'm hoping that my walking away
from Coworker (rather than responding) showed them how effective
that kind of behavior is.
#Post#: 28913--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Jem Date: April 4, 2019, 8:26 am
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I am not sure I know what “screaming a directive” means? Can you
clarify?
Regardless he should be showing everyone respect.
#Post#: 28914--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: gramma dishes Date: April 4, 2019, 8:31 am
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No. You are not being "too sensitive".
I would indeed discuss it with your direct supervisor. I would
mention that you felt disrespected, but that mainly you are
concerned that it might have been extremely confusing to the new
hires as to what constituted appropriate work behavior.
#Post#: 28916--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Songbird Date: April 4, 2019, 8:39 am
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I agree, discuss it with your supervisor.
Most likely this was aone-time occurrence. You know, "he must
have been having a bad day" kind of thing.
but if it isn't, you want to let your superviosr know what's
going on so that the problem doesn't escalate.
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Re: Disrespect?
By: Jem Date: April 4, 2019, 8:49 am
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[quote author=Kimpossible link=topic=1081.msg28912#msg28912
date=1554383880]
Just for some background, I work as a support person (non-sworn)
in law enforcement department. I am in department A. Coworker
works in department B. Coworker is known to be a show
off/braggart. We both fall under the same line of command, we
both report to the same Captain, Major, Chief, etc. Coworker is
in no way my superior. Further background, our bosses aren't in
the office this morning.
When I walked into work today, a coworker screamed a directive
down the hall at me. He was about 20 feet away from me, and he
screamed at the top of his lungs. The directive was completely
useless because it lacked any information that would be useful
for me to do anything to assist him. I feel that he only did
this to show what an important person he is. What is worse, he
had a group of new hires with him. Now they may think that this
is the proper way of addressing a member of support staff. I
looked at him and walked away. I didn't feel that it would have
done me any good to address the matter with him in the hallway
early in the morning. I feel very disrespected. If our mutual
boss had been in the office, Coworker would have never yelled at
me like that.
Am I being too sensitive? Would you bring this up to your
supervisor? Would you have said something to Coworker in the
moment? Would you say something to Coworker later?
The funny thing is when we were cross-training the new hires a
few days ago, I told them that they should take care to show
respect to their support staff. I'm hoping that my walking away
from Coworker (rather than responding) showed them how effective
that kind of behavior is.
[/quote]
As my earlier post indicated, I don't know that I understand
what "screaming a directive" means, but I do think I would have
done something other than look at this person and walk away. Are
you support staff and he is not? He should not be disrespecting
you regardless, but if he was asking you to do something that is
your job to do (whether he is "your superior" or not), I don't
think refusing to do that thing is a good look either. Had it
been me, I probably would have responded with, "B, what an odd
way to ask me to do ____!" to make it clear that I would do MY
job but that talking to me in a disrespectful way is not
appropriate.
#Post#: 28919--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Hmmm Date: April 4, 2019, 9:21 am
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I'm assuming the useless directive was something along the lines
of
"MY COMPUTER IS NOT LOGGING IN. FIX IT!"
If similar, I would approach the co-worker later and inform in
that in future, if he should need assistance he should request
assistance and provide necessary information and as he saw, you
do not respond to screamed nonsense.
Unless this behavior is repetitive, I'm not sure I would bring
it up to my boss. It's hard to get the point across without is
sounding your upset he
didn't ask you nicely. Barring truly egregious or illegal
behavior, I expect my employees to try and deal with issues
between them first before bringing it to me. If they've
attempted to address the issue, it's fine for them to escalate.
#Post#: 28921--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Jem Date: April 4, 2019, 9:54 am
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[quote author=Hmmm link=topic=1081.msg28919#msg28919
date=1554387704]
I'm assuming the useless directive was something along the lines
of
"MY COMPUTER IS NOT LOGGING IN. FIX IT!"
If similar, I would approach the co-worker later and inform in
that in future, if he should need assistance he should request
assistance and provide necessary information and as he saw, you
do not respond to screamed nonsense.
Unless this behavior is repetitive, I'm not sure I would bring
it up to my boss. It's hard to get the point across without is
sounding your upset he
didn't ask you nicely. Barring truly egregious or illegal
behavior, I expect my employees to try and deal with issues
between them first before bringing it to me. If they've
attempted to address the issue, it's fine for them to escalate.
[/quote]
Regarding the bolded....
I do think it matters what the "directive" was. If the OP was
being asked to do something her job requires her to do, I think
she should not refuse to do that thing or ignore the request.
But that does NOT mean that she should have to put up with
rudeness from this guy. I agree 100% that addressing this with
him directly makes sense, and only escalating if he keeps being
rude.
So that's why I think the OP should not have just walked away
(if he was asking her to do something her job requires her to
do). Different people are going to have different ways of asking
for things and not everyone will agree on what is "wrong" or
"rude." Without being there, we don't know what this guy said or
how he said it, and it could be that most people would have been
fine with it. So the OP should make it clear to this guy that
SHE is not fine with it.
#Post#: 28926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Kimberami Date: April 4, 2019, 10:15 am
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The gist of the directive was "Kimpossible! Find out why OUTSIDE
AGENCY contacted me!" If OUTSIDE AGENCY contacted him, he would
have a reference # or a contact person. There would be no way
for me to know who, what, when, where, why someone from there
was looking for him. Plus, how would I know anything as I'm
walking in the door?
But...almost an immediate update....
Coworker came into my office a few minutes ago without his
audience, and he was sweet as pie. He made his request and gave
me the information I needed. I complied.
I really think he just wanted to throw his weight around in
front of the new people. I'm not going to talk to the superiors
about it, but I might mention a unit on dealing with support
staff to our training department.
#Post#: 28928--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: Songbird Date: April 4, 2019, 10:19 am
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[quote author=Kimpossible link=topic=1081.msg28926#msg28926
date=1554390957]
The gist of the directive was "Kimpossible! Find out why OUTSIDE
AGENCY contacted me!" If OUTSIDE AGENCY contacted him, he would
have a reference # or a contact person. There would be no way
for me to know who, what, when, where, why someone from there
was looking for him. Plus, how would I know anything as I'm
walking in the door?
But...almost an immediate update....
Coworker came into my office a few minutes ago without his
audience, and he was sweet as pie. He made his request and gave
me the information I needed. I complied.
I really think he just wanted to throw his weight around in
front of the new people. I'm not going to talk to the superiors
about it, but I might mention a unit on dealing with support
staff to our training department.
[/quote]
sounds like a plan.
#Post#: 28942--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disrespect?
By: bopper Date: April 4, 2019, 1:41 pm
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I would talk to your boss...."A strange thing happened yesterday
morning. I was walking in at my normal time and then Pat
screamed...and I mean yelled loudly, "Get the file for me!". No
hello, no would you be able to help with the Clark file...just
screaming. What was worse is that he had a group of new hires
with him. I would not want the new hires to think that 1) You
scream at your coworkers to get them to do something 2) You
can't say 'get me the file" without giving information about
what file and 3) You can be misogynistic and scream at women. I
have never seen him do that to a man. (if Pat is a man) 4) You
can Act like this just because management is not around.
Can you have a talk with Pat and the new hires about that?"
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