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       #Post#: 28768--------------------------------------------------
       strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Songbird
       Date: April 1, 2019, 1:21 pm
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       I was at a well known theme park last week.  It was very
       crowded.  The evening ended with a spectacular fireworks display
       over the castle, after which the crowd moved en masse to the
       exits.
       And suddenly the "happiest place on earth"...wasn't.
       People become unpleasant, even aggressive, in a crowd.
       A guy walking behind me, pushing his child's stroller, tried to
       push past me and  ran over my foot.  It hurt enough for me to
       cry out in pain.
       Stroller guy didn't apologize, didn't even acknowledge that he
       ran over my foot.
       My boyfriend asked me what was wrong, so I said to him "a guy
       pushing a stroller just ran over my foot."
       And Mrs. Stroller Guy, who was walking in front of us, said "He
       was trying to keep up with his wife, he got cut off."
       I didn't respond to her, but I did whisper to my boyfriend  that
       maybe she should have walked slower so her husband  could keep
       up.
       Seriously it must be frustrating to get separaed in a crowd --
       boyfriend and I held on to each other to keep from being
       separated -- and I don't know if we were the ones who stepped
       between Stroller Guy and his wife.
       I raised two children, I spent many years pushing a double
       stroller.  I don't recall ever running over someone's foot, and
       if I had done so, I most certainly would have apologized.
       I bit my tongue and said nothing.
       Would you have handled it differenly?
       #Post#: 28770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: JeanFromBNA
       Date: April 1, 2019, 1:52 pm
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       People using strollers as battering rams at the parks is a
       popular topic of conversation on the DisBoards, a forum for
       Disney travel.
       I really wish that groups of people would establish a meeting
       point near the park entrances, in case they get separated.
       Plus, there's always cel phones.
       #Post#: 28773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Jem
       Date: April 1, 2019, 2:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Songbird link ---
       >
       >
       > I bit my tongue and said nothing.
       >
       > Would you have handled it differenly?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would not have handled it differently. What the guy did was
       rude, but nothing you would have done would have erased the
       rudeness or helped the situation, and it very well could have
       resulted in an escalation. Crowds are difficult to maneuver, and
       people unintentionally bump into others. This guy should have
       been more apologetic, but "forcing" a better apology would not
       likely result in you being satisfied, nor would it make your
       foot feel better. I think you did well to basically just move on
       and let it go.
       #Post#: 28774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: DaDancingPsych
       Date: April 1, 2019, 2:55 pm
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       With today's technology, losing your group is almost a
       nonexistent concern.
       I see nothing that you could have done different. The cry was an
       appropriate and likely involuntary reaction. You were simply
       factual with your boyfriend and it's too bad that the wife felt
       guilty enough to say something... although the appropriate
       response would have been "Sorry" and "Are you ok?" What would
       have arguing with her done? I am assuming nothing. She nor
       husband likely would not have apologized and it was not going to
       help your physical pain. You could have called him out in the
       moment, but the wife has me convinced that nothing would have
       changed. I do, however, hope that internally they both felt bad
       enough to proceed with more care.
       I hate the stampede effect and will often avoid it when I can. I
       have been known to linger after fireworks and such until the
       crowd has dispersed and then I head out. It typically only adds
       a few minutes to my time and usually lowers my stress level.
       There are certainly times when I am ushered out of things or
       that I feel that I cannot wait, but when I can, I do.
       #Post#: 28775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Kimberami
       Date: April 1, 2019, 3:13 pm
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       Isn't this why big strollers were just banned there?
       #Post#: 28799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Songbird
       Date: April 2, 2019, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: JeanFromBNA link ---
       >
       > People using strollers as battering rams at the parks is a
       popular topic of conversation on the DisBoards, a forum for
       Disney travel.
       >
       > I really wish that groups of people would establish a meeting
       point near the park entrances, in case they get separated.
       Plus, there's always cel phones.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think the word you're looking for is "obsessed".
       (I used to post there...)
       #Post#: 28800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Songbird
       Date: April 2, 2019, 8:38 am
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       --- Quote from: Kimpossible link ---
       >
       > Isn't this why big strollers were just banned there?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yep.
       #Post#: 28801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Luci
       Date: April 2, 2019, 9:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Songbird link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Kimpossible link=topic=1077.msg28775#msg28775
       date=1554149632]
       > Isn't this why big strollers were just banned there?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yep.
       [/quote]
       Agreed.
       #Post#: 28804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: JeanFromBNA
       Date: April 2, 2019, 12:55 pm
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       --- Quote from: Luci link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Songbird link=topic=1077.msg28800#msg28800
       date=1554212320]
       > [quote author=Kimpossible link=topic=1077.msg28775#msg28775
       date=1554149632]
       > Isn't this why big strollers were just banned there?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yep.
       [/quote]
       Agreed.
       [/quote]
       The strollers that they're allowing are still quite large: "If
       your stroller is larger than 31 inches (79 cm) wide and 52
       inches (132 cm) long, it won't get inside the park." My guess is
       that they're trying to cram more people in for Star Wars
       Galaxy's Edge.
       They also finally banned smoking inside the parks. Now they have
       to enforce it. Given their laissez-faire attitude toward guest
       behavior, we'll have to wait to see how that works out.
       #Post#: 28811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: strollers...sigh
   DIR By: Lula
       Date: April 2, 2019, 2:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: DaDancingPsych link ---
       >
       > I hate the stampede effect and will often avoid it when I can.
       I have been known to linger after fireworks and such until the
       crowd has dispersed and then I head out. It typically only adds
       a few minutes to my time and usually lowers my stress level.
       There are certainly times when I am ushered out of things or
       that I feel that I cannot wait, but when I can, I do.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In the specific case of the Magic Kingdom fireworks, a highly
       underrated solution would be to make a mad dash for the exit as
       soon as the grand finale begins, and pretend you're running for
       your lives while some inferno unfolds behind you.
       ...No?
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