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       #Post#: 27204--------------------------------------------------
       S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:36 pm
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       In the "Parking Spots" thread someone mentioned the rule at a
       gas station of pulling as far forward as you can.  Let's talk
       about that.
       I know I have been frustrated with people who don't seem to know
       that rule (or can't read the sign if it's posted).  My
       frustration is most often compounded by those rude people who
       have to park in front of the doors leading into the mini-mart,
       thereby cutting off any room to go around someone to get to the
       furthermost pump.
       My question, however, is:  At what point does your obligation to
       pull as far forward as possible end?
       I feel that if I've already turned my vehicle off when the car
       at the pump in front of me leaves, I really don't have to
       restart the engine to move forward 20 feet.  I might.  But, if
       I've already exited my vehicle, I definitely won't even if I
       haven't started the process.
       #Post#: 27206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:45 pm
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       I agree with you - If I'm out of the vehicle, I'm definitely not
       getting back in and pulling forward.  If I've shut the car off?
       I'm probably not starting it back up, either, unless there is a
       line-up behind me.
       I vastly prefer the gas stations where it is a single pump in
       each line and the gas pump line is long enough to reach to the
       far side of the vehicle, if needed.  I actively avoid stations
       where it is set up with more than one pump in a line, whenever
       possible.
       It would be so much easier if all vehicles had the filling port
       on the same side!  It drives me crazy when someone goes the
       wrong way to get to the other side of the car instead of just
       pulling the line around the car.  I should just pull in, in the
       correct direction, facing them and let them back up when they
       are done.  But I usually don't want to deal with the potential
       hassle.  Sometime, when I have time to spare, I'll do just that
       and wait them out when they complain.  At a time of year when
       the direction arrows are visible, rather than covered in snow.
       ::)
       #Post#: 27207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: accountingisfun
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:46 pm
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       I drive an electric car. It would be incredibly rude of me to
       stop in front of a pump - even if I'm filling up a gas tank for
       my snow-blower (i wish) or my lawn mower (moving to electric
       soon). I should leave space for others. In exchange, I think it
       is incredibly rude for gas cars to park in electric charging
       stations. I see it regularly and it is annoying that they are
       parking where I can fuel.
       #Post#: 27209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: NFPwife
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:53 pm
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       Interesting question - I think your obligation to pull forward
       ends as soon as the car is shut off and you're making a move to
       get out of the car. I don't think it's reasonable to have to
       turn the car over to drift up a few feet. I've been in the
       situation where the car in front looks like it's about to pull
       out so I pause planning to pull forward and then the driver
       starts "fixing" to drive. I'm glad s/he is sending texts,
       putting on lipstick, tuning the radio, opening a snack, etc.
       before driving. I'm just not waiting to pull forward.
       #Post#: 27210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: NFPwife
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: accountingisfun link ---
       >
       > I drive an electric car. It would be incredibly rude of me to
       stop in front of a pump - even if I'm filling up a gas tank for
       my snow-blower (i wish) or my lawn mower (moving to electric
       soon). I should leave space for others. In exchange, I think it
       is incredibly rude for gas cars to park in electric charging
       stations. I see it regularly and it is annoying that they are
       parking where I can fuel.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree, that's rude. I conceptualize it the same way you do,
       it's the same as if I just parked at a pump and took away their
       opportunity to fuel.
       #Post#: 27213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: March 5, 2019, 1:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: accountingisfun link ---
       >
       > I drive an electric car. It would be incredibly rude of me to
       stop in front of a pump - even if I'm filling up a gas tank for
       my snow-blower (i wish) or my lawn mower (moving to electric
       soon).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't think it is rude of you at all to stop in front of a
       pump if you are filling up a gas can.  So what if your car
       doesn't take gas?  What are you going to do?  Park somewhere and
       walk over to the pumps with your gas can?  I think that would be
       incredibly dangerous because people wouldn't expect that and
       maybe wouldn't see you.
       I've had people annoyed with me when I'm at a pump, filling up a
       bunch of gas cans AND filling the truck but it's kind of an
       'Excuse me for living' situation.  You do what you have to do in
       as safe a manner as you can do it.
       #Post#: 27221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: Model
       Date: March 5, 2019, 3:11 pm
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       Here in NJ, we don't pump our own gas, there is a attendant,
       they will almost always ask you to pull forward, whether there
       is another car behind you or not.  At least this has been my
       experience, anyway.
       #Post#: 27240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: Sycorax
       Date: March 5, 2019, 9:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: NFPwife link ---
       >
       > Interesting question - I think your obligation to pull forward
       ends as soon as the car is shut off and you're making a move to
       get out of the car. I don't think it's reasonable to have to
       turn the car over to drift up a few feet. I've been in the
       situation where the car in front looks like it's about to pull
       out so I pause planning to pull forward and then the driver
       starts "fixing" to drive. I'm glad s/he is sending texts,
       putting on lipstick, tuning the radio, opening a snack, etc.
       before driving. I'm just not waiting to pull forward.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Same.  If it doesn't look like the car in front is actually
       going to pull away in a few seconds, I don't think I should have
       to wait indefinitely *just* so I can pull forward. It's possible
       I'll be halfway through pumping before they're ready to go
       #Post#: 27241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: oogyda
       Date: March 5, 2019, 9:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: STiG link ---
       >
       > I agree with you - If I'm out of the vehicle, I'm definitely
       not getting back in and pulling forward.  If I've shut the car
       off?  I'm probably not starting it back up, either, unless there
       is a line-up behind me.
       >
       > I vastly prefer the gas stations where it is a single pump in
       each line and the gas pump line is long enough to reach to the
       far side of the vehicle, if needed.  I actively avoid stations
       where it is set up with more than one pump in a line, whenever
       possible.
       >
       > It would be so much easier if all vehicles had the filling
       port on the same side!  It drives me crazy when someone goes the
       wrong way to get to the other side of the car instead of just
       pulling the line around the car.  I should just pull in, in the
       correct direction, facing them and let them back up when they
       are done.  But I usually don't want to deal with the potential
       hassle.  Sometime, when I have time to spare, I'll do just that
       and wait them out when they complain.  At a time of year when
       the direction arrows are visible, rather than covered in snow.
       ::)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh, I agree with your second paragraph!  However, I have
       discovered a small ish gas station off the main roads that is
       consistantly $0.10 to $0.15 lower than any others nearby.
       #Post#: 27260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: S/O Parking spots--Pulling forward
   DIR By: STiG
       Date: March 6, 2019, 7:03 am
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       ^ Definitely worth the hassle, then!
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