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#Post#: 412--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: perseval Date: March 17, 2017, 8:58 am
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Rare that I ever feel the need to comment on here but I wonder
how many people who are on this forum were at the supporters
meeting 2 years ago, the day before the forum was closed down?
It was actually suggested by a few fans to DDD that the forum
should be removed because there was lots of negativity on there
at the time. It wasn't any of their idea's originally to do so,
but during the meeting at Sandyacres (which was attended by
about 40 regular fans), they bought the subject forward and
wanted to get everyone's view on it. Every fan who (in front of
surrounding fans at least) openly put their view forward and all
agreed it should be taken down. As far as I'm aware, there
wasn't a single fan there who openly said they wanted the forum
to stay.
I appreciate of course not everyone would have been able to make
that meeting but it was a unanimous decision for those who were
there and it was a wide variety of fans of old and new, young
and experienced. It seems to me some people just want to jump at
any opportunity to have a moan about D, D & D whenever possible.
I understand people on here have your reasons against D,D,D but
on this particular subject I wanted to clear that up.
#Post#: 413--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: Justlovemyfooty Date: March 17, 2017, 11:49 am
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Medway rebel, what makes you believe the social media sites are
heavily vetted? And by whom? They are all run by supporters.
#Post#: 414--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: fluff Date: March 17, 2017, 12:21 pm
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In answer to you both:
I with a couple of mates went to said meeting, I did not feel I
could say anything without being shouted down. I was not alone
in that feeling.
I think you only have to speak to one fan who can no longer go
to home games as he is banned after comments made on social
media.
Both parties read the forums, not just 3D or minotaur.
#Post#: 415--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: Unicorn Date: March 18, 2017, 2:16 am
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Mr Footy. If you know what happened in court then why dont you
just say what happened.
#Post#: 416--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: confusedofashford Date: March 18, 2017, 4:58 am
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[quote author=Justlovemyfooty link=topic=58.msg405#msg405
date=1489582054]
I wonder if any of you go along to games? Talk to people in the
know about what's really gone on and going on? We have four
loyal supporters that took time off work and made the effort to
go and find out first hand about it all. They traveled up to
London to sit in on the last court hearing (yes it was a public
hearing) and despite the best efforts of your hero Glynn Jones
to not allow them in, they sat through and heard it all for
themselves! Even got to speak to the clubs barrister.
They'll tell you facts, not fiction dreamt up by somebody that
has ill feeling towards the 3 D's as you call the people
fighting to save our club.
[/quote]
I am no fan of Mr jones and have often queried his actions, but
I do trust in legal documents that quite clearly show what has
been going on. I also believe in the fact that YOUR HERO, a
certain Mr C has, for the 2nd time in a decade, put the very
future of the club that I have followed since the 70's in grave
jeopardy. Even if you forget the legal cases, his pathetic
efforts at laying a 3g pitch have led to a situation where it
will be necessary to dig the whole thing up and relay it at vast
expense, by the end of may, in order for it to be used next
season. Info not from Mr Jones, but from a totally independent
source. This is without various other costs to get the ground
back up to scratch after many years of neglect.
Did they offer you a good explanation as to why the alcohol
license had been allowed to lapse, plus the clubs insurance, but
the bar had remained open!!
Please, tell us all these facts that we are unaware of, I am
eager to hear them so that I can understand how Mr C has been
misunderstood, yet again.
#Post#: 418--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: Justlovemyfooty Date: March 19, 2017, 2:38 pm
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Just something to think about....
If you borrowed say £10,000 and supposedly didn't pay it back,
would any court in the land let the person you borrowed the
£10,000 from take your house, for arguments sake valued at
£300,000, and just keep it all?
What a nice quick earner that would be, and rather convenient
wouldn't you say?
But anyway, all in good time, and however long that time takes
for the legal cogs to turn, you will be proved wrong about so
many things.
I'm not on here for arguments, or he said she said. I've read so
many negative comments and rumours, I just thought I'd try and
help balance things slightly in the interest of fairness.
A certain company like to use heavy handed tactics to silence
people, banning fans from grounds, threatening fans with legal
action and so on.
Like I said before, they even tried to stop four supporters from
entering a public court hearing.
Don Derick and Denise welcomed them in, thanked them for
attending. Not an action of people that wanted the truth hidden
from supporters. If only more had made that little bit of effort
to seek the truth.
#Post#: 419--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: confusedofashford Date: March 19, 2017, 3:33 pm
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The most stupid thing, of course, is that the debt in question
was for a 3g pitch which was so badly laid that it is now going
to cost as much as the debt, and probably more, to be dug up,
corrective measures taken, and then relaid properly, and who is
likely to be willing to cough up that sort of money.
#Post#: 420--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: hadderz Date: March 19, 2017, 3:53 pm
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Say you asked a few mates for £10,000 to do your house up but
they all turned you down as your track record was not so great
in financial matters. So you find a friend of a friend who will
lend you the money but their 'fees' are a little bit high and so
you take a little bit of a risk. Maybe you forget to mention
that you don't own the whole house........ but this money is to
do it up so it's value will go up.
Maybe you take short cuts with the revamp so the value doesn't
go up. Maybe the structure has woodworm that was not disclosed.
You're right, you shouldn't lose your whole house but you
shouldn't put it up as a security in the first place, especially
when you do not know who you are dealing with.
#Post#: 421--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: elmofudd Date: March 19, 2017, 4:33 pm
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Does this help?
"The biggest risk of a secured loan is the risk to your home. If
you default on your payments, the lender can repossess your home
in order to clear the debt. You should therefore think very
carefully before you take out a secured loan as you could lose
the roof over your head. "
HTML http://www.moneysupermarket.com/loans/difference-between-secured-loan-second-mortgage/
#Post#: 422--------------------------------------------------
Re: New ground needed?
By: perseval Date: March 20, 2017, 6:46 am
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[quote author=fluff link=topic=58.msg414#msg414 date=1489771295]
In answer to you both:
I with a couple of mates went to said meeting, I did not feel I
could say anything without being shouted down. I was not alone
in that feeling.
I think you only have to speak to one fan who can no longer go
to home games as he is banned after comments made on social
media.
Both parties read the forums, not just 3D or minotaur.
[/quote]
I never felt that meeting was in anyway hostile or had any
negativity floating about the room. There was nothing stopping
you saying anything, and if you had then that would've been fine
as they were looking for everyone's opinions and that's your own
fault for not putting your view across.
In reference to the banned fan, would that be Sam Shannon? If
so, then he was banned by Minotaur, nothing to do with the 3
D's, who all actually are really good friends with him. He was
banned for slating Minotaur and Mr Jones on Facebook but not the
actual Ashford page.
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