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       #Post#: 16--------------------------------------------------
       Well it's gone.
   DIR By: elmofudd
       Date: May 3, 2016, 4:00 pm
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       stand by for a few new members............may even be a wabbit
       or 3 among them - pesky varmits  ;D
       #Post#: 17--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: hadderz
       Date: May 4, 2016, 7:24 am
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       That's a shame. During the good days of Steve Monks stewardship
       it was often the place to see latest news and rumours of what
       was going on.
       It's a shame the club felt the need to control it, and in
       banning everything that they didn't want people to know or talk
       about killed the debate and ultimately the amount of posts made.
       Still even these days it could attract 300+ guests a day and if
       utilised correctly was a powerful tool at the club's disposal.
       Having looked at some of the last posts made, not many came
       forward to say they agreed with the closure. Or even voted for
       it.
       #Post#: 18--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: atfcrick
       Date: May 4, 2016, 7:47 am
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       If this forum is to have any level of worthiness then we can do
       without mud-slinging at people that might hold a different
       opinion to yours. Otherwise it will soon become just another
       'clique' forum that only serves to criticise and / or take the
       piss out of those with a different opinion.
       I am sure that many that come on here will be 'anti Crosbie',
       however that doesn't mean that that should turn into the
       unwritten agenda.
       Elmofudd - antagonising someone who doesn't share your views,
       before they have even posted really doesn't help set thing off
       on the right foot does it?
       What we need is a place to have open and honest debates, not
       somewhere to carry on petty squabbles.
       #Post#: 19--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: elmofudd
       Date: May 4, 2016, 8:02 am
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       Looks like you are missing the old dictatorship already.....I'll
       do a deal with you Rick....I won't tell you what, and what not,
       to post if you would do likewise.....deal?
       eta May I remind you of your 1st ever post on here? "I take it
       this forum isn't censored by the gestapo?"
       #Post#: 20--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: atfcrick
       Date: May 4, 2016, 8:56 am
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       --- Quote from: elmofudd link ---
       >
       > Looks like you are missing the old dictatorship
       already.....I'll do a deal with you Rick....I won't tell you
       what, and what not, to post if you would do likewise.....deal?
       >
       > eta May I remind you of your 1st ever post on here? "I take it
       this forum isn't censored by the gestapo?"
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am not advocating censorship, far from it. However I don't see
       the point in most of your posts containing snipes at someone
       that you don't like.
       If this forum is going to thrive as a realistic replacement for
       the old forum & others are to be encouraged to come here and
       enjoy the freedom to discuss the situation at the club, then a
       good start would be less of the personal attacks. The same old
       joke on all your posts is becoming tiresome.
       One of the worst things to have come out of all the mess at the
       club is the fact that fans who should be united have split into
       camps and are more interested in having backed the right side in
       a legal argument than it seems they are in supporting their
       team.
       #Post#: 21--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: elmofudd
       Date: May 4, 2016, 9:58 am
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       Take that as a no deal then.
       If you don't see the point of my posts or find them tiresome
       then just don't read them....simples innit.
       I shall continue to post within the forum rules as I wish with
       the knowledge that should the owner / admin of this forum share
       your view then they will delete them / me no doubt.
       original post part deleted by elmo - life's too short  ;)
       #Post#: 22--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: confusedofashford
       Date: May 4, 2016, 10:54 am
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       Rick, think you need to think back to earlier forums where the
       bunny caused all sorts of problems, and picked many a fight with
       people, including the admin on one forum, the mod, and elmofudd.
       Personally, I would not like to see him appear over here as he
       is trouble, not because of his views, but because of his
       arrogance, his rudeness and his inability to accept when he is
       wrong, which he is often.
       I would like to think that more people would join, not just anti
       owners, but pros too, so long as the forum stays as a forum
       should be, a place for debate, not one where each side just
       slags the other off.
       As for Elmo, his posts still make me chuckle, maybe I am just
       childish.
       #Post#: 23--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: atfcrick
       Date: May 4, 2016, 10:59 am
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       --- Quote from: elmofudd link ---
       >
       > Take that as a no deal then.
       >
       > If you don't see the point of my posts or find them tiresome
       then just don't read them....simples innit.
       >
       > I shall continue to post within the forum rules as I wish with
       the knowledge that should the owner / admin of this forum share
       your view then they will delete them / me no doubt.
       >
       > original post part deleted by elmo - life's too short  ;)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure why you deleted your post as I didn't have a problem
       with it. To answer your questions as I remember them:
       Yes, I am well aware of the history of the 'official' forum.
       Personally I lay the blame for all of the problems firmly at the
       door of DC & TB - and to a lesser extent those that have allied
       themselves on one side or the other and have taken more interest
       in the fight between the two than the welfare of the club.
       I was the Secretary of the Supporters Club. That is the only
       role, official or otherwise that I have ever held at the club.
       I did not attend the meeting and so did note vote on the future
       of the forum.
       I hope that answers your questions. Now isn't an adult
       discussion more constructive than all this back biting?
       #Post#: 24--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: atfcrick
       Date: May 4, 2016, 11:03 am
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       --- Quote from: confusedofashford link ---
       >
       > Rick, think you need to think back to earlier forums where the
       bunny caused all sorts of problems, and picked many a fight with
       people, including the admin on one forum, the mod, and elmofudd.
       > Personally, I would not like to see him appear over here as he
       is trouble, not because of his views, but because of his
       arrogance, his rudeness and his inability to accept when he is
       wrong, which he is often.
       > I would like to think that more people would join, not just
       anti owners, but pros too, so long as the forum stays as a forum
       should be, a place for debate, not one where each side just
       slags the other off.
       > As for Elmo, his posts still make me chuckle, maybe I am just
       childish.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That may be the case, however I just don't see the point in
       every other post being a snipe at someone. It's time for
       sensible discussion to prevail.
       #Post#: 25--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Well it's gone.
   DIR By: elmofudd
       Date: May 4, 2016, 11:15 am
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       "to me it looks like a major change is needed, I don't think
       there will be a united front with the current regime.
       Anyway, thanks for listening to all my ramblings. It went on a
       bit, but it's been building up for a while and I had to get it
       out."
       ATFC Rick  Jan 2010 (6+ yrs ago)  ;D
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