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#Post#: 1145--------------------------------------------------
Phys Reps
By: Zaud Date: February 2, 2016, 5:27 pm
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I realize that there are some rules lawyers who will throw a
fit, but I am a big fan of the Eurpoean style game. Part of that
is working together to tell a cool ass story, not try to out do
each other. So 'yes' situations will arise where what I put
below will not be enforced, but it should be the exception, not
the rule. (Like not forcing people to wear full armor when it is
95+)
I think rules need to be printed for Weapons creation (including
Rocks since they have become common. I do not think spell
packets should count as Rocks as a long term plan. Austen
commented that I was picking up his rocks, so it does and will
continue to come up).
Rocks as weapons should be in game items. Yes, there are 'rocks'
on the ground, but not all of them are suitable as actual
weapons.
I bring 15 spell packets to game. I bring this up since someone
commented that I was not bringing enough. I continue to believe
that Spell Components should be supplied by the Player Character
and they should be a 0 (Ingame Cost) item. During battle Mages
can pick up their packets from the ground but Holds should not
normally be Called for the purpose of resupply.
Players Spell Packets should be considered much like Garb. The
player provides it and should not be forced to spend 'In Game'
money on them. New players will have some available from
Plot/The Game, but after a certain point people should bring
their own. If they are distinctive, they will be returned to the
player after battles and when it is convenient. If they are
generic looking they may end up in 'The Games' supply.
During battles any mages can grab packets from the ground to
use. (Politeness would dictate you never have more 'in hand'
than you brought)
Advantages of spell packets being 'in game':
Fewer Holds (do not need to ask if peoples hands glow)
Physics: We no longer have to imagine peoples hands glowing at
night or wonder why we can't read by the light of their glowing
hands.
Stealth; Mages no longer glow at night.
Saves Money: We do not need to buy 'glow in the dark' bracelets
for our mages in order to make the game more 'live'
Saves Money: Players providing their own spell packets takes one
more expense/hassle from people running the game.
Fewer Stops in Action: Mages not being allowed to call 'hold'
just for spell packets prevents people 'going out of
game/talking about tactics while in hold'. It also allows a
fighter to run the defenseless mage down the like the dog he is.
Skills that allow you to 'conceal' items now becomes useful as
'spell packets' being concealed can come in handy.
Allows someone to take a 'mage' Hostage instead of killing them
by taking away their spell packets. ((Fact that some mages can
have the soul foci means a prudent bad guy needs to kill all
mages))
Other role play based advantages exist, but they are more Plot
based and I do not want to put up spoilers.
Red Packets should be used for any effect that can be blocked by
a persons Shield.
Yellow (or Green/find a color) Packets: should be used for
Alchemy.
White Packet: (Used for holy water))
Disadvantage:
You can not tear up your Red shirt for spell packets anymore.
(but you can make red spell packets and donate them to game for
the Monster/Natural effects and probably get xp for it)
#Post#: 1147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Phys Reps
By: ZachC Date: February 2, 2016, 7:35 pm
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I'm working on updating the weapon creation guide. I've only
got a couple more things to write about, but they're mostly
things I don't actually know too much about (bows and arrows).
But I'll get it done soonish, hopefully.
I'm still on the fence about the spell packets. I do think its
a good idea to encourage people playing spell casters to have
their own packets, just as warriors should have their own
personal weapons.
#Post#: 1148--------------------------------------------------
Re: Phys Reps
By: togapika Date: February 3, 2016, 9:48 am
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Glowing in the dark has never actually been an issue before. No
one has tried to read by it, and if a mage is sneaking around
they are usually invisible. No one has ever been required to use
any kind of glowing bracelets or other phys-rep either. It's a
non-issue.
A soul foci is both dangerous and expensive, not commonly
obtained by most mages.
Better solution:
Remove packet holds from the game and require mages to provide
their own packets, just as a fighter must costume his armor.
Doesn't require any new mechanics; doesn't require any skill for
the creation of whatever in-game item the "packets" would be
considered to be.
#Post#: 1149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Phys Reps
By: Lothar6669 Date: February 3, 2016, 9:59 am
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After playing a mage vs a warrior I am leaning more and more
with Bob on the component thing. However as togapika just
suggested we could just remove packet holds from the game and
require mages to carry their own packets. I would prefer to
avoid components as much as we can because It does not really
fit story wise to the whole harness mana thing for Aldeon. I can
see how if people wanted to abuse packet holds they could, and
its fully within their right to do it because the rules state
its fine. So I do want to see something done about it, and I
think we are heading in the right direction.
#Post#: 1152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Phys Reps
By: Zaud Date: February 3, 2016, 4:50 pm
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If mages hands Glow, then it seems to me it should be a
costuming requirement at night to wear glow in the dark
bracelets. The game does a great job on costuming everything
else, especially helping new players get garb. It is natural
that improvements will continue to be made, and I would put
forth that the glow in the dark aspect is one such improvement.
If the fluff of the game is such that Mages can always cast
spells, then the Holds will be necessary to mimic this ability.
I am good with that, it helps 'me' at least my current
character. Just like not having to finish incants before
throwing spells helps me.
I was not aware that glowing hands was fundamental to Aldeon's
backstory. People will need to decide between 'glowing
hands/holds called' and making them semi 'in character' and the
responsibility of the player.
It is foolish to have both glowing hands and 'spell packets' as
tangible items from my perspective.
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