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#Post#: 563--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: iikepie13
Date: April 6, 2015, 1:06 am
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Thats true, it could be abused. But if we try and make the game
to strict then it would be no fun. We have to trust the players
will be fair, and that plot will be also.
#Post#: 571--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: rich423
Date: April 6, 2015, 6:25 am
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> Thats true, it could be abused. But if we try and make the
game to strict then it would be no fun. We have to trust the
players will be fair, and that plot will be also.
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Explain this to me please, Inunderstand this as " we cant
specify this cant be abused we have to leave it open to be
abused then trust people not to do it" it may be that its just
early, but if something can be the strongest people will domit
as a dominant stratagy. Just because noone has it yet may mean
that the average level of person isnt high enough or since its
apperebtly been talked about in the past people dont want it as
it will change.
#Post#: 575--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: ZachC
Date: April 6, 2015, 6:37 am
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This game is built around an honor system. That means we have
trust each other. If something gets broken as all hell in game
the plot will step in one way or another to deal with the
problem. This could be using in game plot to cause the
character harm or by restrictions the way a player can use it
until an errata comes around.
#Post#: 576--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: rich423
Date: April 6, 2015, 6:40 am
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Right the rules are there for keeping someone honest. As we have
a decent amount of time before the errata i posted my concerns
here, I understand that there is an honor system but isnt it
easier to balance something before its broken rather than
retroactively having to do it possibly offering a rewrite to
chracters that already have the skill, thus creating a bad play
experience
#Post#: 578--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: ZachC
Date: April 6, 2015, 6:46 am
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Your point is valid, but also consider the amount of time it
takes to propose something during an errata. We really shouldn't
waste time voting on a skill that has never been used.
Basically, I don't agree with you and without seeing the effects
in game my opinion isn't going to change. But good luck.
#Post#: 581--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: rich423
Date: April 6, 2015, 7:20 am
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So are you asking someone to break the honor system before you
will see it as a problem? It can be a very dangorus thing to
adopt the attitude of " have to see it before I know.it is
broken" now the request for emperical data is not out of line
but to be compleatly closed off to all disscussion before seeing
it, are there any other skills that arnt currently in game/ you
have never seen so we know what to put forth for your opinion?
In any rate, I beieve that magic no matter how minor should have
a cost to a minimum of one.
#Post#: 590--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: Lothar6669
Date: April 6, 2015, 9:09 am
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He is not asking someone to break the Honor system. He is saying
it should be play tested first before we change it since we have
no idea how it would work. Just because it looks like a witch
does not mean it is. We dont have to burn it on sight.
#Post#: 596--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: hjordanr
Date: April 6, 2015, 10:10 am
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I'd have to disagree that it would be a waste of time to vote on
a skill that people don't have. If something seems pretty
obviously broken then a preemptive fix might be better than
waiting around until a problem comes up, especially if it looks
like a big problem. I think this should still be suggested and
voted on at errata either way.
#Post#: 597--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: Lothar6669
Date: April 6, 2015, 10:21 am
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I guess im not seeing what is going to break it. But Ill just
wait like everyone and see the proposal at errata.
#Post#: 601--------------------------------------------------
Re: High Magic Family Mastery
DIR By: iikepie13
Date: April 6, 2015, 1:14 pm
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"WORLD EFFECT SENSE TRUTH!" OK split how many people are lying?
Again it only tells if someone is lying. Woo. However I do agree
that nothing should cost no mana... except scrolls, unless we
are willing to let mages dump mana into scrolls. Another thread.
Back to this. I think when it comes time to vote I think if we
just make it a simple subtract to a minimum of one. It would
pass with flying colors.
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