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       #Post#: 32196--------------------------------------------------
       280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: guest92
       Date: December 10, 2015, 9:36 am
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       It must have been 1970 while stationed at Raf Akrotiri  (280 SU)
       when a detachment came up to go to Iran and assist Marconi to
       calibrate a new Radar for the Iranian Air Force. At that time
       the Shah was still in power and Iran had very good relations
       with both the UK and USA. I was lucky to be chosen, as I had
       been an SAC for less than a year.
       A group of us flew to Tehran from Akrotiri. Memories are a bit
       vague (it was 45 years ago) but those I do remember were F.S.
       Tug Wilson, Ken Godfrey, Ollie Wright, Don Brooke-Webb, Gil Dix,
       Mick Winford, Bill Hancock Pete Collins and Spike Mulligan. When
       we arrived in Tehran we were accommodated in an Hotel  called
       Hotel Sina before boarding a coach to take us across the Iranian
       Desert to Shah Rabad Radar Station.
       The Coach trip was very long, hot, and rather "hairy " the
       driver was asked a couple of times to slow down due to steep
       ravines on both sides of the road at times. Needless to say he
       did  not take much notice. We all arrived in one piece at a
       place called Gorgon where we had an overnight stop in a rather
       tacky hotel. Next day we continued our journey to Shah Rabad.
       The Billet in shah Rabad was comfortable and I remember the food
       was pretty good also.  We did not even have to do our own
       washing, we just left dirty washing out in the morning and it
       was returned washed and ironed in the evening. They even had a
       swimming pool which we made good use of. The Ops site was
       separate to the domestic site and we had to travel there by
       landrover each morning. Calibration Flights were provided by a
       Royal Air Force Canberra. Shah Rabad was only a few miles from
       the Russian Border and radar echoes from the Russian side could
       be seen on an intercept course every time our aircraft got near
       the border. My memory is a bit clouded, but I think we were
       there for about six weeks at least. I remember there was a good
       bar for socialising with the Iranians and Marconi engineers. One
       day some locals turned up with a load of horses, we spent a
       whole day trekking across country. Challenging for me and
       probably others as I had never ridden a horse in my life before.
       Eventually  we returned to Tehran to the same Hotel. Marconi
       provided us with chauffer driven cars to take us round to see
       the sights and hot beds of the City. We ended up in the Red
       Light District, Tug Wilson was fussing trying to make sure
       everyone was safe. Godfrey called him "Mother Hen" but he had
       the respect of everyone in the group. we flew back to Akrotiri a
       day or so later. this all happened so long ago so if anyone can
       fill in any blanks in memory please do so. For example was there
       an officer in charge and any names I may have missed. All I can
       say is it was the best detachment with the best bunch of guys in
       my 23 Years in the Royal Air Force.
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       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: David Carnell
       Date: December 10, 2015, 12:49 pm
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       Dave,I also went on a detachment to Iran in 1961 only we went to
       a radar site on the south coast of the caspian sea at a place
       called babulsar,we flew from nicosia on a viscount to beiruit
       then on a pan american DC8 to mehrabad airport where we were
       billeted in an iranian air base called Doshan Tapeh Bashkar,on
       the eastern side of tehran (it is still there as a airfirld and
       can be seen on gogle earth) 2days later we travelled to babulsar
       by train which took around 10 hrs.
       We stayed in a hotel on the banks of the river Babul and  about
       2 miles from the radar site,the food was tremendous fullenglish
       for B/fast followed by dishes of caviar and hot flatbread,lunch
       was in the marconi canteen on sight and then back to the hotel
       for dinner which sometimes consisted of goat,and very nice it
       was,We also had a canberra from No6 sqdn at Akrotiri which was
       based at Doshan but they flew back there after each run.
       It was also around 6 weeks for the det and we returned to Tehran
       by road over the highest road in Iran which was around 14,000ft
       and the mount Damevand went up to a height of 18,000ft,back to
       Doshan for a further 3 days and tours arounf Tehran with a
       brigadier of the Airforce as our interpreter,Did you by any
       chance get taken to the underground market near to the UK USa
       embassy,s on ferdowsy avenue,that was an eye opener with a grid
       system of streets that would only sell items of one particular
       thing such as carpets,jewellry,elctronics,food,spices, and
       others.
       whilst at Babul we went for a night out at a place called the
       Casino hotel and it was where the Shah and his wife Farah Debha
       used to stay the were there the night we went,our return journey
       to cyprus was by BA 707 to beiruit then viscount back to
       nicosia.
       the crew was a f/sgt name forgotten and 6 SACs,Fraser Gunn,Alan
       Pearce,Trevor Long,Ray Cawston,Myself and one other.Best Det
       ever and I had a few from 280su El Adem,Khartoum,Aden,Adarna
       (turkey) and malta all for at least 3 weeks.
       #Post#: 32202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: alanshield
       Date: December 10, 2015, 2:25 pm
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       Nice trip by the sound of your tale Dave,  Wish I had spent
       three weeks in Aden!
       #Post#: 32203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: guest92
       Date: December 10, 2015, 2:30 pm
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       Hi David, knew Trev Long at Buchan 1971 to 72 if it is the same
       fella. Sounds like you had a very interesting detachment too.
       Also a far better memory for places than I.  Forgot to mention
       we did all manage a swim in the Caspian Sea , Can't remember
       where it was though.
       #Post#: 32206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: David Carnell
       Date: December 11, 2015, 2:15 am
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       Hi Dave,the reason I remember this Det so well is that I have
       several reels of old jerky cine film of Babulsar and also the
       journey back over mount Damavand back to Tehran.
       One of my biggest mistakes when we went sight seeing in Tehran
       was to film a lot of the places we visited such as the Blue
       Mosque only I left the lens cap on,it was only when I sent the
       film for processing it was blank I was really **ssed off.
       #Post#: 32273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: terry
       Date: December 14, 2015, 9:34 am
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       Great account of two detachments. 'Tug Wilson was actually a Sgt
       in charge of the watch that I was on. Spike Milligan was a Cpl
       at the time. Bill Hancock passed away a few years ago. But as
       you say Dave, a goodly group of guys to go on detachment with. I
       was at 280 Jan 68 to Jan 71 and dont remember DBW at all.  TB
       #Post#: 32277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: guest92
       Date: December 14, 2015, 10:55 am
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       Ahh Terry if memory serves Don Brooke Webb was on 2 Sqn  with me
       . Tug Wilson was on 1 Sqn. Our F. S. was F.S. Richards. Also Sgt
       Jim Bland. there is a picture of Don at the last Halton Reunion.
       
       #Post#: 32278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: Brian Reynard
       Date: December 14, 2015, 11:23 am
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       --- Quote from: Dave Rugen link ---
       >
       > Ahh Terry if memory serves Don Brooke Webb was on 2 Sqn  with
       me . Tug Wilson was on 1 Sqn. Our F. S. was F.S. Richards. Also
       Sgt Jim Bland. there is a picture of Don at the last Halton
       Reunion.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Jim Bland.. would this be the giant of a man, Geordie, ex Army??
       if so he and I were together at JGWTU TyCroes in 1955/56.
       Really Enjoyed reading the memories, photos... wonder if todays
       TG12 folks will ever get some unusual detachments as there were
       in the 50/60s??
       #Post#: 32301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: Gil Dix
       Date: December 15, 2015, 6:02 am
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       I remember that detachment quite well Dave. In fact it was
       the back end of 1969.  The only air condition on the coach was
       to have the windows wide open. After the day in the desert Tug
       Wilson had turned white due to being sand blasted. Quite a
       sight. On the stopover in Gorgon, there were not enough rooms in
       the "HOTEL" ha ha. so a few of us had to sleep on the roof
       (Flat). The next morning we wanted hot water to have a shave. It
       took forever to get the message across and when it came it was
       in egg cups.
       Iranian Air Force discipline left a lot to be desired. If
       anyone stepped out of line they got thumped by the NCO's.
       They flew a DC3 to approach the Russian border to get the
       Russians to scramble their fighters, which enabled us to
       calibrate the radar.  I seem to remember that on our last day we
       went to the Shar's palace for tea.
       All in all it was a great detachment.
       #Post#: 32322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 280 S.U detachment to Shah Rabad Iran 1970 ish. 
   DIR By: terry
       Date: December 16, 2015, 9:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Dave Rugen link ---
       >
       > Ahh Terry if memory serves Don Brooke Webb was on 2 Sqn  with
       me . Tug Wilson was on 1 Sqn. Our F. S. was F.S. Richards. Also
       Sgt Jim Bland. there is a picture of Don at the last Halton
       Reunion.
       --- End Quote ---
       That is why I never knew DBW. I was 1 flt with Tug Wilson. If I
       remember rightly F/S Rick Richards was on the day shift. I next
       met Rick when I went to Drayton. He was SNCO i/c LPMO. Not that
       we saw too much of him. But a fun guy.  TB
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