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#Post#: 1757--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 16, 2019, 1:01 pm
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Go for it. try to test those that have had some test but are
still marked 'Poor'.
#Post#: 1762--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: chief2000 Date: February 16, 2019, 3:09 pm
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Will do.
#Post#: 1818--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: Markm51 Date: February 19, 2019, 3:53 pm
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Looking to pick this up as the next play test by me. You OK
with that Lee??
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Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 20, 2019, 3:37 am
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Yes please, Mark. It would be good to get another set of eyes on
this one.
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Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 22, 2019, 5:01 am
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So I've run through Chris's tests, employing the current scoring
system:
Chris 1
Aircraft losses: Germans score 3 VPs; Poles score 2 VPs
Bombing: 6 VPs
Result 5 VPs (Polish Victory)
Chris 2
Aircraft losses: Germans score 7 VPs; Poles score 2 VPs
Bombing: 4 VPs
Result -1 VPs (German Victory)
Chris 3
Aircraft losses: Germans score 5 VPs; Poles score 2 VPs
Bombing: 10 VPs
Result 7 VPs (Polish Victory)
Chris 4
Aircraft losses: Germans score 3 VPs; Poles score 4 VPs
Bombing: 2 VPs
Result 3 VPs (Draw) [Chris wrote this up as +1, which was still
a draw]
This gives us a mean output of 3.5, which is within the draw
window but suggests a leaning towards the Poles, who find it
easier to score big with a lucky bombing hit, while it requires
the Germans to score big with their fighters, which is harder.
I'm tempted to leave the victory levels as they are, but give
the Germans a nudge by removing their Green marker.
#Post#: 1919--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: niedziak Date: February 25, 2019, 12:04 pm
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I started playing it with Terry and he already got comment about
Karaś flights, and I think he have a point. They are set-up
so close to the tanks that there is no way for them to be
intercepted (maybe after they drop bombs they could be
intercepted on the way out in some situations). He was
considering moving them square or two away from the tanks.
#Post#: 1922--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 25, 2019, 3:25 pm
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Yes, play with the set-up and let me know what you think works
best.
#Post#: 1961--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: Markm51 Date: February 28, 2019, 7:10 am
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Scenario: O04 Bomber Brigade
Version: v.0.3.1
Playtesters: Mark Merritt (solo)
Report: This is my first playtest of this scenario. Sorry for
the delay, family issues intervened.
I pushed the PZL 23s back 3 squares (Q1, R1) to give the Germans
some chance in intercepting before the Poles bombed.
Turn 1 - No one tallied, bombers moved...
Turn 2 - ME109E (R) (veteran and expert) tallied P11c (K) and
did a head on attack; no losses on either side, dogfight ensues
(much to the chagrin of the Germans...)
Turn 3 - 3 actions; (1) The PZL 2s bomb the closest tank, flak
causes no damage, 4 hits on the tanks. (2) ME109E (R) continues
dogfight with P11 (K), no hits either side; P11s break, ME109
disrupts. (3) P11 (N) jumped the useless ME109 D (O) (this guy
was where I put the Green crew; they couldn't get a tally on
anything to save their hides...). Ensuing combat has one ME109
shot down, ME109 D flight breaks. P11s disrupt.
Turn 4 - 2 actions (1) P11 (N) follows broken ME109 D (O); no
losses on either side but the P11 flight broke. (2) Both ME109E
(R) and ME109 D (N) tallied PZL 37 (S) and dove on the bomber as
it approached the target. One bomber was shot down, plus one
straggler. No losses to the ME109s. ME109 (N) disrupts.
Turn 5 - Both ME109s from above continue attack on the PZL37
flight, no losses on either side, the ME109D flight breaks. The
PZL37 bombs, no hits.
Turn 6 - 2 actions (1) ME109 E (R) continues chase of PZL
bomber, no losses, ME109 breaks. (2) ME109 E (P) tallies the
next PZL 37 bomber and attacks; no losses, and the ME109
disrupts. The next PZL37 bombers hit the tanks for 2 more hits.
Turn 7 - ME109E (P) comes on line and attack the last PZL
bomber, no losses, ME 109 follows. PZL37 bomber bombs, no hits.
Turn 8 - ME109E (P) continues attack on PZL37; again, no losses
either side. ME109 breaks off the action.
Total score. Polish - 6 Hits on the tanks = 5 VPs. 1 ME109
downed. 6VPs total.
German - 1 PZL 37 bomber shot down, 2 VPs
Total. Draw!
Conclusions: Both sides could not hit in aerial combat, lots of
fights but little damage. The German CAP flight was ineffective
since he apparently wasn't looking at the sky and could not
tally and allowed himself to be jumped. Overall the Germans
performed badly (bad die rolls..). The poles did OK, didn't
bomb particularly well, and their air combat skills were lacking
as well. They were lucky the Germans could not shoot. It felt
like a draw... I'll play this again.
#Post#: 1962--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 28, 2019, 8:10 am
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Thanks, Mark. I think I'll ask you to play another scenario
until I have a report back from Tomasz about his and Terry's
playtest. It sounds as if they are going to propose a set-up
change and it would be good if you could validate that change
when it finally goes in.
#Post#: 1963--------------------------------------------------
Re: O04 Bomber Brigade
By: Markm51 Date: February 28, 2019, 8:40 am
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Ok, I’ll hold off until I see your change.
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