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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 11, 2019, 3:39 pm
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Hi Lee, the band of broken cloud was the main reason the 1st
Sentai came up empty. When they cleared the cloud, their single
tally roll as a Wing without radios were just poor. The Ki-30s
were being attacked behind but a level lower so they suffered
the negative drm for target being behind.
The high Ki-43 Sweep was very effective against the Buffalo ace
going after the last group of bombers. He tallied the ace so
was already on him no matter which direction he would dive.
Unless the Buffalos only go after the Bettys, then I think he is
well positioned.
It's worth another play or two on my part to see if other
outcomes will emerge, which is why I hesitate about any change.
I might be playing it poorly!
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: March 12, 2019, 4:21 am
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We can certainly consider repositioning the sweeps if we feel t
would give a better result.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 16, 2019, 5:55 am
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Scenario: O13 On a little street in Singapore
Version: v0.2
Playtesters: solo
Report: A better game for the Japanese with much better
protection. Luck played a part in that the J11 squadron didn't
make a tally and had to have GCI redirect him towards the
Bettys. By the time he caught them, they were near the board
edge but there was time for battles. The ace Ki43 sweep managed
to address each of his flights' attacks. The Buffalo in H7 had
the ace and managed a turn 1 attack. However, the escorting
Zero flight got a late reaction and then tangled him up in a
dogfight. In retrospect, he could have gone for a head on
attack if not splitting. To split or not is often the question!
The reduction in firepower doesn't help which is why I
hesitate.
Victory:
Allied scores: 5 bombers and 1 fighters for 11VP
Japanes scores: 8 fighters and exiting bombers worth 33VP= 41VP
41VP less 11 = 30 VP is just barely a draw.
Felt like the Japanese should have achieved the mission here,
but it's on the fence. They lost 5 bombers which puts a dent in
their mission. In this engagement only two of the Allied
squadrons really made much progress and there were a few
setbacks with tallys for them. I think I'm leaning toward
Japanese should have barely won this.
Recommendations: Given the attrition that both sides are likely
to face, it really does come down to disrupting or breaking
bomber squadrons. In this game, the Japanese were lucky. The
B-339D had two rounds with a Ki-30 on its own but failed to
score anything. The only thing I wonder about is whether the
draw window should be more narrow like +27 to +29? Is it more
fun for players if someone wins the game 90 to 95% of the time?
With a wide draw window, I suspect draws to result more
frequently than that given equal skill and luck.
#Post#: 2134--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 17, 2019, 6:01 am
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Scenario: O13 On a little street in Singapore
Version: v0.2
Playtesters: solo
Report: Japanese disaster! The ace Buffalo started in J11 this
time and dived on a Betty on turn two to down 4 clean losses!
That put the Allies way ahead, and then the two low Buffalo's
emerged from the Dense cover to single out the Ki-30's for
another 6 losses there.
Victory:
Allied scores: 11 bombers and 2 fighters for 24VP
Japanese scores: 4 fighters and exiting bombers worth 25VP=
29VP
29VP less 25 = 5 VP
This certainly felt like an Allied victory!
Recommendations: None. Despite the horrid score, I played the
Japanese much better, especially with 1st Sentai. They got in
the fights as soon as they could and I left one to circle over
the Ki-30 situation so jumped in quickly. The only thing I
could have done was split the Ki-43 Sweep as soon as it finally
got a tally, but it was too late to stop the slaughter. In the
end, he warded off the B-339D who decided to ambush the Betty
which I had aborted and returning to base (this was the squadron
that was trashed by the ace Buffalo earlier). Luck had a hand
in this game and it was very bloody.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: March 17, 2019, 8:43 am
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Kev, would you sign off on this?
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 17, 2019, 8:58 am
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Hi Lee, I think that since I still have it setup I’ll give it
one more try to see if the Japanese can win this thing.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 17, 2019, 4:55 pm
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Scenario: O13 On a little street in Singapore
Version: v0.2
Playtesters: solo
Report: Japanese disaster again playing basically the same
Allied approach. Top 2 squadrons go for the Bettys; bottom 2
squadrons come in under cloud cover to have a shot at the thin
skinned Ki-30's. I think the Allies did well enough against the
Bettys to win, so the extra losses of Ki-30's is just icing on
the cake. Again, the Japanese experte has little bearing on
this battle if the Allies concentrate on the leading elements as
they have. The cloud banks just create channels through which
the Allies can localize the Ki-30's and smash them to pieces.
They are very fragile, and the Buffalo is surprising me with its
robustness.
Victory:
Allied scores: 13 bombers and 1 fighters for 27VP
Japanese scores: 3 fighters and exiting bombers worth 22VP=
25VP
25VP less 27 = -2 VP
Recommendations: None. I'm out of ideas as Japanese to counter
this strategy with Allies, which is how I test it playing solo.
If one side is winning, I keep playing them roughly the same to
see if I can get the other side to overcome it. I can't do that
with this one I'm afraid. The Buffalo is too tough. I'm not
sure why the Japanese OB was reduced so much but if the escort
were re-instated for the Ki-30's that would help a little. The
Bettys are the real issue here. One good Zero flight against
two full squadrons of Buffalos is going to lead to losses for
the Japanese almost all the time. Put a split squadron in the
works and it makes it super tough to cover those bases. And the
1st Sentai simply cannot reach the crisis in time.
#Post#: 2142--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: March 18, 2019, 5:16 am
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So, what are our options? It seems that the Ki-43s are going
untouched and all the action takes place against the head of the
raid. Here's some thoughts:
(1) Restore the Ki-27 escort for the Ki-30s. (Needs an
additional Ki-27 counter, but that's possible.)
(2) Increase the altitude of 1st Sentai by 1 or even 2 levels,
so as to permit them to dive to intervene against the Bettys.
(3) Move 1st Sentai set-up one column left, as well as higher,
so they are closer to the Bettys.
(4) Move the Ki-30s one column left to bunch up the head of the
raid.
Pick or choose from one or more of these ideas. Any thoughts?
#Post#: 2184--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: March 23, 2019, 6:26 am
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Okay, I've just done a pass on this that essentially condenses
the Japanese set-up and places the Jap escorts and sweeps in
better positions to intervene.
#Post#: 2331--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: April 24, 2019, 2:35 pm
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[quote author=Lee Brimmicombe-Wood link=topic=79.msg2184#msg2184
date=1553340385]
Okay, I've just done a pass on this that essentially condenses
the Japanese set-up and places the Jap escorts and sweeps in
better positions to intervene.
[/quote]
I will give the new configuration a test......or more!
One thought I'd had was whether the Ki-30s should go back to
1VP. There was the earlier point that players tend not to go
for 1VP bombers but in this case they are easier pickings to the
low flying Buffaloes.
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